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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Again; you have no idea what you're talking about. Jonah Goldberg is a right-wing writer who is not objective in his opinions or research and therefore not capable of writing honestly on the roots of nazism. He makes his money trashing the left. Likewise with D'Souza; a Christian rightist. There certainly are left -wing radicals with a my way or the highway attitude, but they are marginalized - as they should be, and don't represent the common sense of those who are not on the right. Trying to equate the left with nazism or fascism is the extreme height of ignorance and incompetent thinking.
    From Goldberg's book 'Liberal Fascism' he beautifully compares the similarities of Nazism & Fascism with today's liberalism.

    Both were remarkably similar: seizing the means of production via government, empowering the masses, rule by experts, the elevation of youth and brute emotion over wisdom, tradition and intellect. The submission of the individual to the will of the state. As Goldberg said, "The Nazis were not big on property rights and tax cuts." And as we both know--neither are today's socialist liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Predictable, and the list of brain-deads grows ever longer.
    Maybe he (I assume Ksig is a he) meant literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    From Goldberg's book 'Liberal Fascism' he beautifully compares the similarities of Nazism & Fascism with today's liberalism.

    Both were remarkably similar: seizing the means of production via government, empowering the masses, rule by experts, the elevation of youth and brute emotion over wisdom, tradition and intellect. The submission of the individual to the will of the state. As Goldberg said, "The Nazis were not big on property rights and tax cuts." And as we both know--neither are today's socialist liberals.
    That's tripe and is written by an ignorant right-winger. Fascism as the combination of government power, private enterprise and military intervention to accomplish the expansion of the state. The fascist imprisoned the liberals and the communists and the union leaders.

    YOU should be reading real history instead of right-wing claptrap by people who don't know their ass from their elbow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oskar View Post
    What criminal actions did Duke order?
    Whoa . . . whoa . . . whoa.

    You were talking about Charles Manson, and then in midstream you switch to Duke.

    Let me refresh your memory.

    You started this by saying that Manson should not have been jailed:

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    He shouldn't have been put in prison at all.

    I then asked you WHY you thought Manson should not have been jailed.

    You responded:

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    He didn't kill anybody, to our knowledge.
    I then asked you:

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    Do you believe then that if an individual "orders" an action, that individual is just as responsible for it as the one who committed the action?
    Notice I said "individual", NOT Duke per se.

    You then asked me:

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    What actions are you referring to?
    My response:

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    Criminal actions.
    Then, you switched from Manson to Duke.

    While this thread is focused on Duke, you were the one that brought up Manson and how he shouldn't have been jailed because "He didn't kill anybody, to our knowledge."

    I'm dealing with your statements about Manson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That's tripe and is written by an ignorant right-winger. Fascism as the combination of government power, private enterprise and military intervention to accomplish the expansion of the state. The fascist imprisoned the liberals and the communists and the union leaders.
    Fascism stands for a centralized autocratic often militaristic government. Liberalism or the tenets behind today's Democratic Party worships a strong overpowering centralized government where individualism is shunned at all cost and each one's freedoms and or liberties are seriously jeopardized. A militaristic government is simply the forcible restraints levied by that central government on the people.

    Prime example of a liberal/fascist centralized government policy that restrains average people from enjoying their American freedom to be an individual is obamacare's policy that doesn't allow one to keep their doctor while forcing one to pay extremely high premiums.

    Where did you get that nonsense that fascism includes private enterprise? Ridiculous, private enterprise is the main staple behind Republican Conservatism.
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    @BobJam

    See post #111. You responded to a question that I asked about Duke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oskar View Post
    @BobJam

    See post #111. You responded to a question that I asked about Duke.
    That's why I highlighted "order himself" and used the word "individual".

    OK . . . tell you what. Manson . . Duke . . . Manson . . . Duke . . .

    Let's just start this whole thing over again, starting with your statement ABOUT MANSON in post# 81:

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    He shouldn't have been put in prison at all.
    Now let's go to your statement ABOUT MANSON in post# 102:

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    He didn't kill anybody, to our knowledge.
    Now, let me rephrase post# 111 to make it perfectly clear (substituting "Charles Manson" for "an individual":

    "Do you believe then that if Charles Manson "orders" an action, that Charles Manson is just as responsible for it as the one who committed the action?

    (Again, "action" means a criminal act.)

    Answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobJam View Post
    That's why I highlighted "order himself" and used the word "individual".

    OK . . . tell you what. Manson . . Duke . . . Manson . . . Duke . . .

    Let's just start this whole thing over again, starting with your statement ABOUT MANSON in post# 81:



    Now let's go to your statement ABOUT MANSON in post# 102:



    Now, let me rephrase post# 111 to make it perfectly clear (substituting "Charles Manson" for "an individual":

    "Do you believe then that if Charles Manson "orders" an action, that Charles Manson is just as responsible for it as the one who committed the action?

    (Again, "action" means a criminal act.)

    Answer?
    That argument didn't fly in Nuremberg and it doesn't here.

    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Predictable, and the list of brain-deads grows ever longer.
    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskar View Post
    Maybe he (I assume Ksig is a he) meant literally.
    Yes, I'm a guy. No, it was figurative, not literal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Fascism stands for a centralized autocratic often militaristic government. Liberalism or the tenets behind today's Democratic Party worships a strong overpowering centralized government where individualism is shunned at all cost and each one's freedoms and or liberties are seriously jeopardized. A militaristic government is simply the forcible restraints levied by that central government on the people.

    Prime example of a liberal/fascist centralized government policy that restrains average people from enjoying their American freedom to be an individual is obamacare's policy that doesn't allow one to keep their doctor while forcing one to pay extremely high premiums.

    Where did you get that nonsense that fascism includes private enterprise? Ridiculous, private enterprise is the main staple behind Republican Conservatism.
    You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. GW Bush used the military to invade a sovereign country and take out it's leader for the purpose of gaining the natural resources. His father used our military to take out a leader in Panama... THAT is fascism.

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