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    END Birthright Citizenship To Visitors & Those Illegally Crossing Our Borders!

    List of countries that 'give' birthright citizenship...

    HERE IS A LIST OF ALL THE DEVELOPED NATIONS OF THE WORLD THAT OFFER BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP TO THE NEWBORN BABIES OF TOURISTS AND 'ILLEGAL' ALIENS:

    1. United States. That's right, ONLY ONE. Every other modern developed nation in the world has gotten rid of birthright citizenship policies. Yet, most of U.S. news media and politicians the last two weeks have ridiculed the comments by some other politicians that it is time for the U.S. to put an end to birthright citizenship for tourists and 'illegal aliens.'

    - NO OTHER COUNTRIES (ZERO-NADA-ZILCH) folks, the U.S. 'Stands alone.' There used to be all kinds of developed countries that gave away their citizenship as freely as we do in the U.S. but one by one they all have recognized the folly, recklessness, lunacy, stupidity of that policy.

    - SOME MODERN COUNTRIES THAT RECENTLY ENDED THEIR BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP POLICY:
    Canada was the last non-U.S. Holdout. Illegal aliens stopped getting citizenship for their newborn babies in 2009. Australia's birthright citizenship requirements are much more stringent than those of H.R. 1868 and took effect in 2007.

    - New Zealand repealed in 2006.
    - Ireland repealed in 2005.
    - France repealed in 1993.
    - India repealed in 1987.
    - United Kingdom repealed in 1983.
    - Portugal repealed in 1981.

    The United States is the 'laughing stock' of the modern world. Only the U.S. values its citizenship 'so lowly' as to distribute it promiscuously to the off-spring of foreign citizens visiting Disney World on tourist visas and to foreign citizens who have violated their promises on their visitor, work and student visas who stay illegally in the country, as well as to those who sneak across our borders.

    It's not just Mexico and South America who are sending illegals across our borders. Currently, the CBP(Customs Border Protection) reports that of those apprehended illegally crossing the border, China is number one.


    Wake up America! END BIRTHRIGHT FOR TOURIST, FOREIGN CITIZENS AND ESPECIALLY 'ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.'


    Illegal aliens from China, India, Russia, the Middle East, and a host of other nations are flooding the United States. Ironically, most often these 'illegals' and/or their offspring are given positions at the front of the line for Government jobs, contracts and assistance. Look around you! We are giving away our culture, and economic and fiscal strength because our borders are not secure and we bestow citizenship irresponsibly. In a few short years, we will experience over population which impacts our quality of life with unfettered access to our borders!



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    I have no problem with birthright US citizenship provided that the parents are here LEGALLY.
    It takes a FAMILY to raise a child--Not Hitlery Klinton's Socialist, Anti-Family, Nanny-State...I mean, "Village".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Libertarian View Post
    I have no problem with birthright US citizenship provided that the parents are here LEGALLY.
    The Constitution makes no distinction. Born here = citizenship. The real culprit is the 14th Amendment which was illegally ratified in the first place.

    We'd have to amend the Constitution in order to change the law and you simply don't have the votes. Maybe a Trump Supreme Court could become Judicial Activists and give you a better answer - and destroy the Constitution once and for all in the process.

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    Birthright citizenship in the Fourteenth Amendment requires the parents to be " subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.

    Wetbacks ain't.

    Neither are tourists or other casual visitors.

    It's already the law. All we need is to find people with spines to send to Congress.

    As far as I can tell, DECENT people don't run for elective office, and that's the problem we face today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResister View Post
    The Constitution makes no distinction. Born here = citizenship. .
    Ah...bullshit.

    "1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


    There have been NO court rulings, NONE, giving wetbacks citizenship.

    The Rodents of this era have merely given it because they have to dilute the votes of the Americans that reject their corruption at the ballot box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResister View Post
    The Constitution makes no distinction. Born here = citizenship. The real culprit is the 14th Amendment which was illegally ratified in the first place.

    We'd have to amend the Constitution in order to change the law and you simply don't have the votes. Maybe a Trump Supreme Court could become Judicial Activists and give you a better answer - and destroy the Constitution once and for all in the process.
    The Constitution makes no distinction. Born here = citizenship. The real culprit is the 14th Amendment which was illegally ratified in the first place.
    The Fourteenth Amendment violated the Senate suffrage clause of Article V and violated the amendment process as well. There is no need to amend the Constitution. Birth right citizenship and anchor babies were created with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. It is Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment the can giveth and taketh away this doctrine:


    The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    The Constitution makes no distinction. Born here = citizenship.
    It actually does, based on the history, events, and the reason for the two different citizenship clauses.

    The history of jus sanguinis citizenship is traced to the de Natis Ultra Mare in 1351. What differentiated the U.S. from Britain was the term “natural born citizen” as opposed to “natural born subject.” The concept of jus sanguinis did influence the creation of the Constitution in the United States.
    One of the pieces of evidence is John Jay’s letter to George Washington dated July 25, 1787:

    New York 25 July 1787

    Dear Sir

    I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet, which sailed Yesterday.

    Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
    Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere I remain

    Your faithful Friend & Servt

    John Jay

    Washington passed Jay’s letter and concerns to the delegates at the convention. The concept was adopted and was the basis for Article II, Section 1, Clause 5
    Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 September 1787:

    No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

    The Naturalization Act of 1790 codified the jus sanguinis of children of citizens not born on U.S. soil:


    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.
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    My secretary, and her brothers, were all born of parents who entered the U.S. illegally. They worked hard, bought a little land, worked and farmed. Farmed for people who inherited large farms but didn't want to farm and each year bought more land. They were good people, good Americans, and I was proud to know them. The father acquired citizenship but I don't think their mother ever did. I'm not sure about that.

    But, the children were U.S. citizens because they were born here. I would consider it a travesty to send them packing because their parents had not been citizens. Of course, there were a lot of people who would have loved to be able to take the land they worked hard to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Libertarian View Post
    I have no problem with birthright US citizenship provided that the parents are here LEGALLY.
    That is ok, but, non legal birthed children must be deported with the non legal immigrants or the repatriation becomes a mockery of the judicial system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom-Cruise View Post
    That is ok, but, non legal birthed children must be deported with the non legal immigrants or the repatriation becomes a mockery of the judicial system.
    But, but, what if the parents are dead. Shouldn't the children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren be deported? I'm not sure my relatives who came from Ireland entered the U.S. legally. Many didn't. Many Irish rejected for health reason were put back on the boat they arrived on which stopped, on its way back to Ireland, in Canada. All the Irish got off and walked across the border.

    So, perhaps my children should be departed because a pair of their great-great-grandparents on their father's side of the family were not citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The Fourteenth Amendment violated the Senate suffrage clause of Article V and violated the amendment process as well. There is no need to amend the Constitution. Birth right citizenship and anchor babies were created with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. It is Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment the can giveth and taketh away this doctrine:
    The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.



    It actually does, based on the history, events, and the reason for the two different citizenship clauses.

    The history of jus sanguinis citizenship is traced to the de Natis Ultra Mare in 1351. What differentiated the U.S. from Britain was the term “natural born citizen” as opposed to “natural born subject.” The concept of jus sanguinis did influence the creation of the Constitution in the United States.
    One of the pieces of evidence is John Jay’s letter to George Washington dated July 25, 1787:
    New York 25 July 1787

    Dear Sir

    I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet, which sailed Yesterday.

    Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
    Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere I remain

    Your faithful Friend & Servt

    John Jay

    Washington passed Jay’s letter and concerns to the delegates at the convention. The concept was adopted and was the basis for Article II, Section 1, Clause 5
    Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 September 1787:
    No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

    The Naturalization Act of 1790 codified the jus sanguinis of children of citizens not born on U.S. soil:
    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.
    If your legal arguments are correct, then you would not be here on a discussion board. You would be arguing this in a federal appeals court OR the United States Supreme Court.

    Once a person has been issued their birth certificate, Socialist Surveillance Number... ooops, "Social Security Number" and or a National ID Card, they are citizens. That is reality. It doesn't matter if the system had the authority, they had the power AND those on the right only want to win on social media, including discussion boards. So, your position is without merit unless and until you present it in the form of a legal proceeding (i.e. original lawsuit, amicus curaie brief in an existing case, etc.)
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