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    Quote Originally Posted by goodpen View Post
    Better check the figures again...Oct 2016 for example Texas unemployment dropped again to 4.7% while Calif's was at 5.5%. In Sept Texas led the nation in job growth...at over 38,000.
    Kansas' is 4.4%.
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    I don't care what your numbers show I would take Kansas or Texas before the liberal nuts in CA. At least in Texas they don't have the major confusion of what bathroom to use, like in the land of Fruits.

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    A few California towns and cities have gone bankrupt and a few have had to renege on their government workers fat pension plans. The pension plans across the state will someday go into default and when they can't roll it over any longer California will fall worse than Greece did. Then the state will be third world and look like Tijuana from south to north. I third world nation within a nation. By then most of the viable businesses will do what many others have already done..They'll move to Arizona, Utah, Colorado and Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    A few California towns and cities have gone bankrupt and a few have had to renege on their government workers fat pension plans. The pension plans across the state will someday go into default and when they can't roll it over any longer California will fall worse than Greece did. Then the state will be third world and look like Tijuana from south to north. I third world nation within a nation. By then most of the viable businesses will do what many others have already done..They'll move to Arizona, Utah, Colorado and Texas.
    We will take their "Normal" businesses, but they can keep the people with a few exceptions for normal folks.

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    Even the very liberal LA Times recently ran a story on how Government Employee Pension Funds are under threat because the State is so damn broke!

    And our unemployment has consistently exceeded national averages, including Obama running out the unemployment rolls when a record number of working age Americans have no jobs.
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    National unemployment figures are kind of a joke, since they don't include all that big percentage of the work force...not even included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehoshaphat View Post
    We will take their "Normal" businesses, but they can keep the people with a few exceptions for normal folks.
    Amen to that. I watched Colorado turn under the onslaught of Californians and New Englanders. Many of them came to escape but many brought their perverted form of "governance" with them. The same thing has happened here in Arizona. If it wasn't for the heat and deserts this state would have turned a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    He's correct, on the surface.

    And now for the rest of the story:

    Economic Growth -- Blue States vs. Red States | National Review

    The Texas economy has been negatively affected by the price of oil. However, with the massive new discovery there, this is going to be very short term particularly with an energy friendly government finally in office.

    California's unemployment, crime, poverty and debt problems continue to be the real story there. A few doing very well, a lot doing poorly and being swamped by illegal immigration, that's the real story.

    The white middle class continues to flee the place because wages don't begin to cover the cost of living, particularly housing and taxes.

    Kansas? Who the hell wants to live in Kansas? It is a climate hell. Of course that affects the economy.
    A massive new oil find in Texas will do little to help. Think about supply and demand. The world is now awash in oil. Alternate energy is exploding particularly wind and natural gas. A major new oil find will either be under exploited or drive down the price possibly to a level where oil companies lose money extracting it.

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    Living in Fontana and working in San Bernardino I see a vibrant business community both places. Few stores have gone out of business. New business like a major Amazon warehouse have moved in. Help wanted signs are common and wages are being drivem up as a result. I figure now that Nevada has a Democratic legislature the business closing there should decline.

    I live close to the railroad line along the 10 it is busy night and day. Lots of trucks on the 10, too. Just south of the 10 are dozens of large new wearhouses. All employee people to make things.

    The problem San Bernardino city government had was an inability to raise property taxes. That is particularly true for business property and corporate business is not reassessed when it changes hands. hands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoons View Post
    He's correct, on the surface.

    And now for the rest of the story:

    Economic Growth -- Blue States vs. Red States | National Review

    The Texas economy has been negatively affected by the price of oil. However, with the massive new discovery there, this is going to be very short term particularly with an energy friendly government finally in office.

    California's unemployment, crime, poverty and debt problems continue to be the real story there. A few doing very well, a lot doing poorly and being swamped by illegal immigration, that's the real story.

    The white middle class continues to flee the place because wages don't begin to cover the cost of living, particularly housing and taxes.

    Kansas? Who the hell wants to live in Kansas? It is a climate hell. Of course that affects the economy.
    They aren't likely to develop the new Texas find. There's plenty of oil on the market and the price is not attractive.

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