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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolwalker View Post
    Somehow you see everything backward.
    how so?

    If the costs are so high with the coveted private system then the only solution is to nationalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberal_hack View Post
    how can it be illegal if the SCOTUS already ruled on the legality?

    If Americans were against this then there would be a different POTUS and different senate leadership
    Idiot Americans are for it, thinking Americans see how outrageous it is. It will cause businesses to close, hospitals to fail, doctors and nurses to be out of business. This in essence is nothing more than a form of forced taxation beyond the normal federal tax. The government my friend is not supposed to be your mommy!
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    This is going to crush what's left of any economic recovery, the stock market will crumble along with real estate, it will be sooner than you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyo View Post
    This is going to crush what's left of any economic recovery, the stock market will crumble along with real estate, it will be sooner than you think.
    I don't think "Hack" passed 7th grade math...for that matter Obama either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberal_hack View Post
    if this number is in fact correct, single-payer or total nationalized health care for the entire supply chain is needed.

    It's good to see that right-wingers are finally stumbling upon the staggering cost of obtaining insurance and health care.

    Roughly 80% of all the nations that presently HAVE govt supplied health care, their citizens pay a higher percentage out of pocket for health care than citizens of the USA. This is true over the last 30 PLUS YEARS.

    http://www.oecd.org/els/healthpoliciesanddata/oecdhealthdata2012-frequentlyrequesteddata.htm


    What we have today, private sector business is superior to ALL govt health care programs worldwide. If govt would not be so regulatory involved in our health care it would be cheaper, more efficient and higher quality. The SAME as any other business.


    Liberals are too stupid to realize that not only is government NOT the answer it IS the problem.

    Right now[pre-obamaSCAM] we have 2/3's using private health care and/or insurance. And 1/3rd of our population using govt health care/insurance.

    Cost per patient, private sector, $7,400.00 per year.

    Cost per patient govt sector, $11,083.00 per year.

    More govt care/coverage will cost much more.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolwalker View Post
    I don't think "Hack" passed 7th grade math...for that matter Obama either.
    7th grade wasn't the issue. I was a rabble rouser in the 9th and 10th grade and then knuckled down through college

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    Cruz /Defunding Obamacare

    Cruz Will Use 'Any Procedural Means Necessary’ to Force Vote on Defunding Obamacare

    (CNSNews.com) - When the U.S. Senate this week takes up the continuing resolution to fund the federal government for the remainder of fiscal year 2013, Sen. Ted Cruz (R.-Texas) will offer an amendment that will prohibit funding for the implementation of Obamacare during that period. “I believe we will have a vote on this amendment and I have said I am willing to employ any procedural means necessary to ensure that we do get a vote on the amendment,” Cruz told reporters today.

    Cruz, who favors total repeal of Obamacare and has introduced legislation to do that, said in a conference call on Monday that at a minimum Obamacare should not be implemented until Gross Domestic Product has started growing at its average post-World War II level or better. “The historic levels of growth have been 3.3 percent and, in my view, at a minimum, we should see a return to those historic levels of growth before Congress is willing to contemplate putting through another massive burden on the economy that hurts productivity and kills jobs,” said Cruz.

    CNSNews.com asked Cruz if there was some way under Senate rules that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could prevent a vote on his defunding amendment.
    “I certainly don’t want to speculate on steps that Sen. Reid could take to try to prevent a vote,” said Cruz. “In my view this deserves an up and down vote and I believe we will get an up and down vote on it.”

    Last week, Cruz supported Sen. Rand Paul (R.-Ky.) when Paul filibustered the nomination of CIA director John Brennan in order to force the administration to clearly state that it did not believe the president had the authority to use drones to kill American citizens on American soil if they were not posing an imminent threat of violence.

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    There are a few Rs willing to stand up to the tyrants.

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    Yes, four.

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    It's a start. I'll take it.

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