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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilObamaClone View Post
    Oh, okay, now I know what one is.

    I personally do not believe in medicinal marihuana and believe it is entirely a lie.

    I have no doubt it helps people cope with medical problems like cancer. But it is not a cure for anyone. To claim this is medicine is a fraud the same as a good swig of Whiskey for pain relief.

    If what nonsqtr says is true I have no problem with smoking pot to relieve the consequences of serious medical condition. Especially if terminal. And I did not intend to make light of that circumstance.

    But I will not pretend a major public fraud is not going on under the very same cover.

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    @RMNIXON :

    You DO know that the pharmaceuticals of today

    were the Old Wives tales of yesteryear, right?

    I grow Willow trees, natural aspirin,
    and I'll guarantee you that if I ever get broke enough,
    or the supply lines for formulated aspirin go down,

    I'll still have access to the drug.

    For some of us, KNOWING that what we're using is 100% natural and organic
    is a definite plus to any medication,

    and the funny thing is,
    most of us use herb to keep from (ab)using the "harder," addictive drugs.

    To a certain extent, pot will relieve pain,
    but it mostly DISTRACTS from pain,
    rather than completely masking it,
    which is important, to me,
    because pain is our first clue that something is wrong with us,

    and if it's totally masked,

    we don't realize that there may be other pains happening to our bodies,

    which require attention.
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    I have known quite a few people that have had cancer. The only one that was helped by pot was an addict who used her illness as an excuse. One cancer victim swore by meth.

    For $200 these doctors will swear that a heel blister is life threatening.

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    wow

    That's pretty harsh on a cancer sufferer ...

    Almost every formulated drug on the market has a natural source,
    and if our access becomes restricted,
    you're fucked.
    Not only do you not know what's what,
    you've also pissed off everyone that could possibly help you.

    Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    Its not piss poor business practices. It's the standard business practice of every drug dealer I ever met. I don't know if a reporter would print a story about dispensaries ripping off sick and dying marijuana users since everyone has already accepted that the fiction of the sick pot patient is a story they tell themselves. Otherwise they'd be nothing more than drug addicts. Even reporters have a bit more integrity.

    Remember when obesity was "glandular"? No one stuffed their face. They were fat because of an illness. Pot use is the same excuse. They aren't getting high. It's treatment. No one is fooled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    Dopers with phony illness claims and fraudulent doctors notes (they paid cash for and I have seen the billboards) are going to complain about Pot Dealer Bait and Switch?

    A practice that is as old as any Used Car Dealership in the State......

    Sorry but this is the funniest shit I have read in this Forum for a long time!
    You're missing it.

    The reason they have liquor stores is so people won't buy moonshine. And that's so they won't die from the contaminants, or go blind from the methanol.

    The reason they have the FDA is so consumers can be certain that when they buy an Aspirin labeled 'Bayer', they're not going to be eating horse tranquilizer instead.

    It's not about the weed. It's about the consumers.

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    Look, let me see if I can explain this in simple terms. When we first started I needed an anti-inflammatory, so we tried every NSAID under the sun, starting with Advil and moving up from there. Nothing worked. Then we tried Cortisone (injections), that didn't work either. Then we tried... well, you get the picture. We tried thirty different offerings from the prescription pharmaceutical companies, and there was only one thing that worked. That thing is call "indomethacin" (Indocin), it's primarily for gout but it's a very powerful anti-inflammatory and the only trouble with it is it causes bleeding stomach ulcers. (Eventually, if you eat enough of it - and "enough" in this case is not very much, maybe three to six months worth).

    So now, AFTER this whole medical trial-and-error, I'm exasperated 'cause my doctor's talking surgery, and I'm like, "isn't there anything else you can do? aren't there any other options?" So my doctor kind of looks around furtively, and he pulls me over to the side and he says, "look, I didn't say this, and if anyone asks I'll deny even discussing this with you, but..." and then he makes this little motion with his hand like he's smoking a joint. And I'm like, "oh yeah? no kidding?" And then he says: c'mhere for a minute, and he takes me into his office and he closes the door, and this is what he tells me:

    He says: "if you're going to do this, you need to use the right strain. The stuff you think is good, that gets you real high, isn't going to work for you. You need the mediocre stuff that's rich in a chemical called CBD, which happens to be an excellent anti-inflammatory. It's only found two other places in nature, which is in nutmegs and black pepper, and you have to eat a lot to get a therapeutic dose, but this way you can smoke half a cigarette and be 'reasonably pain-free' for about four hours".

    And I discovered, that what he told me was exactly right. The best strain for me is something called Sour Diesel, which is mediocre at best (most of the time), it's really smelly but it doesn't get you very high. But it sure does work on the inflammation, and yes it's true that part of it is a distraction, it's not that the inflammation goes away it's just that you notice it a little less - which allows you to do simple things like go shopping without grimacing at the little children, y'know...

    So like, the choice I have here, is between a pharmaceutical with some very unpleasant side effects, or pot which has virtually no side effects except that it seems to offend some little old ladies for reasons they can't quite articulate. Well, I have a one word response for those lovely ladies - survival. This is about survival (for me), it ain't about propriety or licensing or anything else. If the pot weren't available at the dispensary, I'd go right back out and buy it on the street, and I would greatly prefer to be able to purchase it in a nice safe place that's even regulated by the food wizards and the Better Business Bureau.

    Just think of it like a liquor store, it's the same thing ain't it?

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    Nutmeg in high doses is fatal.

    The whole point of marijuana is to get high. Everything else is just an excuse to get high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    You're missing it.

    The reason they have liquor stores is so people won't buy moonshine. And that's so they won't die from the contaminants, or go blind from the methanol.

    You are quite naive to say the least. The reason moonshine is illegal is because the government doesn't collect tax on it. Here in East Tennessee moonshine is legal because the state and the federal government collects those taxes. As long as you pay the tax the government doesn't really care if you are drinking horse piss

    And the FDA is there to make the process of bringing new drugs on line so cumbersome only the most well heeled drug companies can do so, which serves to keep down competition and allows the drugs to sell for a small fortune.

    All regulations are sold under the idea they are there to help the people when in fact they exist to retard competition.
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    To the nay-sayers :

    I think I'll put my trust in medical science and the professionals,
    such as doctors and nurses,

    rather than listen to your two-bit opinion about what drugs ANYONE should or should not take.

    And this:

    YTF do y'all insist on inserting your uneducated and ridiculous opinions
    into EVERY thread that discusses marijuana?

    You seem perfectly happy to force people into taking what amounts to HEROIN, an opiate,
    and I don't hear you flapping your pie-holes about the lives that are absolutely ruined,
    the addictions that are never gotten over,
    nor the ease of accidental overdose for any of those drugs.

    Is it because, in your disgusting self-righteousness,
    YOU are partakers of those types of pain killers?

    Your ignorant opinions are noted;

    now, how's about STFU'ing and GTFO'ing?

    Fucking trolls. pffft!
    Last edited by fyrenza; 09-20-2014 at 09:40 AM.
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