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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real American Thinker View Post

    There is a lot of truth in what he says. Unfortunately he is also right about Nixon, Bush, etc., but then you have add Johnson, likely Kennedy if you read the pentagon papers, Harry Truman and FDR.

    While we love to point to WWII as the "last just war", we forget that neither side waged it justly. One brief read of how the allies went about the entire fire-bombing of Dresden. the used huge concussion bombs to knock the stone off the fronts of buildings and then dropped fire bombs. They got a fire burning that lasted about three months.

    25,000 civilians were slain and incinerated.


    And oh, a lot of them were slave laborers displaced from Poland. In recent years it has been revealed the Allies knew they were there and bombed anyway.

    Dresden was not the industrial capital they said it was and its factories were nearly destroyed when the bombing started.
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    Obama is a corporatist, people. If you don't believe me, look at the redistribution to the bankers, insurance companies, and other special interests that's going on. Look who paid for his campaigns. This not rocket science, people.
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    By 1945, Germany had definitely lost the war; nevertheless, Churchill demanded the annihilation of Dresden as payback for the Luftwaffe bombing of the English town of Coventry years earlier. Quid pro quo... and victors are always the ones who get to write the "official" histories....
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    lovely. more anti-west propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    There is a lot of truth in what he says. Unfortunately he is also right about Nixon, Bush, etc., but then you have add Johnson, likely Kennedy if you read the pentagon papers, Harry Truman and FDR.

    While we love to point to WWII as the "last just war", we forget that neither side waged it justly. One brief read of how the allies went about the entire fire-bombing of Dresden. the used huge concussion bombs to knock the stone off the fronts of buildings and then dropped fire bombs. They got a fire burning that lasted about three months.

    25,000 civilians were slain and incinerated.


    And oh, a lot of them were slave laborers displaced from Poland. In recent years it has been revealed the Allies knew they were there and bombed anyway.


    Dresden was not the industrial capital they said it was and its factories were nearly destroyed when the bombing started.
    Pretty messed up if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollycy View Post
    Well, evidently, the current line of thought in the thread is that King Hussein is actually a Capitalist... even though he's a collectivist wealth-redistributor, an autocratic statist bent on increasing taxes and fees, and a "useful idiot" executor for socialist architects who seek to create umbilical cord dependency on centralized government by an enlarged bottom-feeder citizenry that contributes less and less to the Welfare State edifice it feeds off of every year.

    You have joined the majority here by announcing that Obama is neither a Socialist, nor a Marxist... OK, what do you think he is? A war criminal? Or at least guilty of breaking U. S. law regarding warfare (as I pointed out earlier)? Uh, that is the thread topic....
    He is a capitalist. Specifically, a corporatist, which is to capitalism what communism is to socialism. An extreme natural progression that can be stopped. Corporatism is capitalism that marries big government and big business. They work together for mutual benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    lovely. more anti-west propaganda.
    Where? I don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real American Thinker View Post
    He is a capitalist. Specifically, a corporatist, which is to capitalism what communism is to socialism. An extreme natural progression that can be stopped. Corporatism is capitalism that marries big government and big business. They work together for mutual benefit.
    I can certainly see a lot of corporatism in what has been presented as "Obamanomics", but which is really Bernanke-nomics! Obama doesn't know anything about economics, but he has an enduring commitment to the infusion of socialistic Welfare State toxins into the bloodstream of the country, creating entrenched dependency in at least half our population already!

    Bernanke and Geithner have told Obama everything to do and say where the economy is concerned, thus, we've had a continuation of the bailouts, and the completely unwarranted "rescues" of those deemed "too big to fail". There, gentlemen, is where the latest manifestations this corporatism spawned -- with the Federal Reserve crime syndicate. Even before Obama, they had begun to work their "rescue" bullshit on "W" Bush through another Fed operative: Henry Paulson, along with Benny "Bailout" Bernanke.

    But Obama himself? He actually reminds me a lot of Hitler in a number of ways. Both Obama and Hitler were pawns and stooges for the "big-money" boys, making sure that they would be protected and enriched. In return, each of these despots were able to able to inculcate the masses with a near total dependency on the State, along with a radical, socialistic "vision" for the country.

    Well, at least Hitler made the German bunch get up off their asses and DO something to earn their keep (building armaments, the autobahn, dams, bridges)... Comrade Obama doesn't care if his sycophants ever turn their hands -- so long as they vote in the expected way. Anyway, guys, whether it's National Socialism (Nazi), or American "Progressive" Socialism, it stinks of the same kind of eventual decay and ruin... and the Federal Reserve is driving us trillions of dollars deeper in debt every year to pay for it all while they extend the control of all Central Banks through every country in the world....
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