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    Turkey’s Fleet Needs....



    Turkey’s Fleet Needs


    Ex-PH2 | October 21, 2019


    Turkey has been in the market for its growing navy to acquire fighter planes that can land on an aircraft carrier. Unfortunately, the Turkish navy does not yet have a carrier in its fleet but is instead using somewhat lighter assault ships than can be converted to small aircraft carriers. The hangup is that the Turkish government decided to buy the Russian S-400 system. That ended the deal on F-35s.


    https://news.yahoo.com/why-turkey-ma...050000932.html


    From the article: Turkey was a major industrial participant in F-35 production. Turkish firms manufactured an array of components for the single-engine plane. The country’s air force planned to acquire 100 F-35s and, by mid-2019, had already sent aircrew and maintainers to the United States for training.


    But the U.S. government in mid-July 2019 canceled Turkey’s participation in the fighter program. The S-400 system, in theory, could gather sensitive data on the F-35’s radar signature. If Russia acquired the data, it could modify its own air defenses to better counter the F-35’s stealth qualities. – article


    That is a deal-breaker for buying US-made equipment. It does explain several recent events.


    Does Turkey need aircraft carriers? It’s already take delivery of the Anadalou from Spain.


    This should be interesting.
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    If Turkey gets these planes...a lot of fuss and bother would be saved if one just went to Russia, straight off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Rivers View Post
    If Turkey gets these planes...a lot of fuss and bother would be saved if one just went to Russia, straight off.
    This is Turkey’s business. They sell and trade in secrets. Russia gives them S-400 for free. Turkey gives Russia the way to detect the F-35.
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    Doesn't really matter, as they will have to use Russian/Chinese style Carriers.

    Only American Carriers and ONE French Carrier, have the "catapult" system.

    All others have to use "ramps" and face into the wind, in order to launch their aircraft.

    This greatly effects the size and type of carrier-based aircraft used....
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    Amazing.....are we that hard up on money that we need to sell to the Turks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightkore View Post
    Amazing.....are we that hard up on money that we need to sell to the Turks?
    it is NATO inclusion.
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    The Turk, IsIs ( the turks privateers ) Israel are all receiving oil from Syrian Oil fields ~ the oil goes to turkey then to Israel and the open market ~ some oil is used in IsIs held area or sold to surrounding groups ~ why we have supported this is beyond my understanding ~ I don't think the American people have gotten any relief in Gas Prices ~ it sounds like we might leave a few hundred of our boys and girls in Syria to prevent Syria, with Russian help from getting their land and OIL back ~ nether Assad nor the Syrian People are our enemy, or don't wish to be '''

    We pretty much help delivered every free country into the hands of the Curved Knives ~ Syria today would be gone and Assad and his family dead ~ And The complete Christian population of Syria butchered, the girls gathered and sold to filthy muslim scum ~ like happened to some scale in Iraq ~ if it were not for the Russians ( The Russian today is doing what we did in WWII ~ protecting a people ) ~ I wish Trump would turn this around ~ this is a continuation of Hillarys " Assad has to go "

    As for the Kurd ~ he is the camp follower that came with the turk ~ and was never given a cut of all that the turk stole ~ tearing off a piece of Syria to hand to the kurd for resisting IsIs, that is the turks expeditionary force is crazy ~ we'd have to stay there forever ~ the turk will never permit a Kurdistan ~ there is no honor among thief or murderer ~ and to take land from the Syrian because of bad press given Assad by the media who lie to us every chance ~ what the hell are we thinking ```

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    Aircraft carriers are a tool of long-range force projection. If Turkey were to go to war with Morocco, carrier might be a good idea.

    But Turkey has lots of standard land airbases in their territory from which to project force all the way to Baghdad or Basra if they wanted.

    The US and Japan built huge long-range carriers for a reason. They looked at the Pacific and said:" Wow! That's a lot of water. Our airbases are thousand of miles from theirs." In both cases, they wanted to take the fight to the other guy and carriers were the only way for a long time.

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