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    Quote Originally Posted by notofimport36 View Post
    I'm seeing that; even debate forums have very little debate remaining.
    Most so called debate forum are nothing but brutality for sport; seeking an internet gotcha win. We're discussing issues. It's like debate, but we try to focus on the issue and not the sport. People do argue. It does get heated. If you really want to discuss politics, this is the place. But if you want to fight just for the sake of it, then there are dozens of sites like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    Most so called debate forum are nothing but brutality for sport; seeking an internet gotcha win. We're discussing issues. It's like debate, but we try to focus on the issue and not the sport. People do argue. It does get heated. If you really want to discuss politics, this is the place. But if you want to fight just for the sake of it, then there are dozens of sites like that.
    I find it sad the extent that debate forums have gone from semi-structured to where it's not even about the issue, and people will through their integrity away just to gain a point.

    Oddly, I've tracked it over the years, from 2004-2006 people would debate over the nuance of various positions, people could play devils advocate.

    Then things started going downhill, by 2008 most debate boiled down to "you can't dislike Obama policy decisions unless you are racist."

    Now, we see debate as fox vs cnn where sometimes the bare facts beyond the names and dates don't even line up. So, someone is not telling truth.

    I took an interest in political discussion to ensure that my positions could hold legitimate outside scrutiny. I like being shown wrong, it allows me to adapt, to strengthen my position.

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    Then things started going downhill, by 2008 most debate boiled down to "you can't dislike Obama policy decisions unless you are racist."
    That hasn't really changed, except now if you support Trump you are a racist Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Star View Post
    That hasn't really changed, except now if you support Trump you are a racist Nazi.
    I know, but at that point it becomes useful.

    We know the communist playbook, I dont think they realize that the west is not the same culture as the peasants and farmers they've done this to before.

    Especially in the US, more guns than people and trillions of rounds of ammo, and these 90 lb soy boys that don't even know which bathroom to use really expect a good outcome.

    Though, historically, their role ends bad regardless.
    1- they get arrested and lose
    2- they win and get lined up against walls to be shot for being untrustworthy traitors to their own people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notofimport36 View Post
    Well, everyone that reads the intros.

    I'll be brief; I enjoy political discussion because opposing positions forces a person to really think through their stances. I've noticed that the level of debate all around has dropped to the degree that wearing the wrong color hat makes someone a nazi raping fascist.

    So, here is to hoping there is still some logic left debating, seems that more often than not we see shouting matches or preaching to the choir and very little in between.

    Cheers.
    True, but posting with like-minded individuals has the same result. In my opinion and from my personal experience.

    Also, it doesn't raise my blood pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    We're lovable aholes.
    Not me.


    ...I'm not loveable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    Not me.


    ...I'm not loveable.
    No, you're just an ahole. LOL

    Stay cool, see ya around.
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    Yup.

    Thass me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notofimport36 View Post
    I like being shown wrong, it allows me to adapt, to strengthen my position.
    Oh you can get that here.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    ...I'm not loveable.
    I forgot about you. Sorry.

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    Yup. Thass me.
    Ok ok.

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