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    We aint here to "hurt" ya just be "Honest"

    Whenever I go back to the "Meeting"

    Feel like such a DUMB@$$.

    Ya kinda hold your head down n gosh I hope nobody talks 2 me..

    Welp look we aint here 2 "hurt"

    Infact they "happy" ya came back through that door..

    So many have passed and "gone"

    Just by showing up seeing me "alive" why that was almost a "thrill"

    Be honest and dont "BS" so I told em the TRUTH
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    Now what keeps me "awake" is I cannot wait until 10 am

    Ya I know im a "FLAKE"..

    Maybe if I show up everyday for afew weeks then I can start asking about a "sponsor"

    But I gotta show em 1st I aint just back on how many "relapses" now..

    Gonna look for some dedication..

    In the meantime I am more than "welcome" to hit the meeting and here take these old grapvines read em
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    Hey @Karl - if you keep doing the same thing you're going to keep getting the same results.

    Why wait to get a sponsor? Cause you're ashamed? Cause you feel like you screwed up?

    Dude - EVERYONE in that place has screwed up. That's why they're there in the first place.

    I'll tell you the way it looks from the sponsors perspective. There's some people that want to get sober, and some people that don't. The ones who do, they're a lot of work. They don't know how to stay straight and they have to be shown how, and it takes time, and patience, ...

    Therefore, the ones who don't want to stay sober, you don't waste your time with. That's kind of what the initial discussion with the sponsor is about, they're going to find out if you really want to stay sober. If you don't care, they're not going to waste their time with you, because there's too many people who really need their help.

    Again Karl - the sponsor is not there to be your friend. The sponsor is specifically there to show you how to do the work. That's it, that's all. The 10th step is a daily exercise, and you need to be shown how that's done. The fourth step has a rigorous format, you need to be shown how that's done. You cannot do this without a sponsor, you cannot sponsor yourself.

    Karl - I'll tell you how it looks to me as a stranger and an outsider who's been reading your posts for quite a while now - stop talking about it, and just do it.
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    He's lazy.
    If you don't practice...you'll sound like it. And, if you don't tune, your life will sound like it, too. Listen to the intervals. That's where it all hides from you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Now what keeps me "awake" is I cannot wait until 10 am

    Ya I know im a "FLAKE"..

    Maybe if I show up everyday for afew weeks then I can start asking about a "sponsor"

    But I gotta show em 1st I aint just back on how many "relapses" now..

    Gonna look for some dedication..

    In the meantime I am more than "welcome" to hit the meeting and here take these old grapvines read em
    I remember it was around the 7th or 8th time I was at intake for detox going through the routine with the nurse and she gave me "the look", she said "we can't keep bringing you in and giving you a bed if you're just gonna be back here next week", but they did because atr least I had the motivation to keep coming back, most people on thier 1st or 2nd trip don't want to be there and go through the motions just so they can get out and get back at it, which eventually circles back to a bed at detox because at some point they know for themselves something has to change, and they tell themselves something has to change, no one has to keep telling them.

    Fake it til you make it man, at least you're showing willingness and motivation, most drinkers and users dont have that.
    "Hello all".......I would have said "good evening ladies and gents", but you all know what you are.......Moe Howard
    (what I'm sure was an inside joke to all the Hollyweird actors in the scene at the time, as Hollywood was Weinstein before Weinsten ever was)

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    My step fathers nephew has in the last 6 months checked into 3 rehab places that I know of. I know that he left 2 of them within 24 hours & my guess is he did the same on the first one. He gets in a reflective mood, realizes that he is rock bottom, also realizes that he is going to kill himself & takes the rehab plunge. He really isn't dedicated to going through rehab, just every now & then feels he should try (& tell everyone that he is checking in of course). Like you Karl he has problems with both drugs & booze. Twice he has been admitted for drug overdoses & checked himself out after he recovered. He has progressed down the rabbit hole quite well because he had done both physical & mental damage to himself. Sooner or later one of 2 things will happen. Either they won't find him in time or he will rob/cheat someone to support his habits & they will kill him. I've had to deal with him because of my step father & of course I get the phone calls from the hospitals. I also get to talk to him when he calls wanting money. Do drugs &/or alcohol long enough & a huge percentage of people end up like him. People make choices & either benefit or suffer the results of those choices. Most of them will cry for help but they are the only ones that can help themselves. Oh well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tex View Post
    My step fathers nephew has in the last 6 months checked into 3 rehab places that I know of. I know that he left 2 of them within 24 hours & my guess is he did the same on the first one. He gets in a reflective mood, realizes that he is rock bottom, also realizes that he is going to kill himself & takes the rehab plunge. He really isn't dedicated to going through rehab, just every now & then feels he should try (& tell everyone that he is checking in of course). Like you Karl he has problems with both drugs & booze. Twice he has been admitted for drug overdoses & checked himself out after he recovered. He has progressed down the rabbit hole quite well because he had done both physical & mental damage to himself. Sooner or later one of 2 things will happen. Either they won't find him in time or he will rob/cheat someone to support his habits & they will kill him.

    One of three things will happen:

    Jails

    Institutions

    Death



    I've had to deal with him because of my step father & of course I get the phone calls from the hospitals.

    I also get to talk to him when he calls wanting money.


    Most of them will cry for help but they are the only ones that can help themselves. Oh well....
    Why?


    Are you your cousin's keeper?


    Who put you in such a codependent relationship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Now what keeps me "awake" is I cannot wait until 10 am

    Ya I know im a "FLAKE"..

    Maybe if I show up everyday for afew weeks then I can start asking about a "sponsor"

    But I gotta show em 1st I aint just back on how many "relapses" now..

    Gonna look for some dedication..

    In the meantime I am more than "welcome" to hit the meeting and here take these old grapvines read em
    Get yourself a damn sponsor at the next meeting you go to!




    there is no shame involved.

    there is no ego involved.

    Men are so hard headed ..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Rivers View Post
    He's lazy.
    ....and lacks commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Now what keeps me "awake" is I cannot wait until 10 am
    For the liquor store to open?
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