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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Bread View Post
    They were and are hoping that their best buddies the Democrats would succeed in getting rid of Trump . They don't seem to realise there's 65 million more Trumps waiting in line .
    Both sides of the aisle have been paid well for their Chinese loyalties...but it don't matter. Trump changed everything.

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    The Progressives have become full blown NAZIs, to thwart a Hitler that doesn't exist...since that is the only way they can express, and self justify, their fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tex View Post
    My feelings are that we had to bring this to a head & now we the time to do it.
    No one but Trump would have ever stood up to the Chi-comms.

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    Both sides of the aisle have been paid well for their Chinese loyalties...but it don't matter. Trump changed everything.

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    It's almost a miracle.

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    For once I agree with PC. These are two VERY different systems. China is neither a democracy nor a free society. They have only liberties - including, now, the liberty to buy and sell and "own" property.

    They also have Social Credit Scores which determine who may enjoy modern Western perks, like air transport.

    Point I'm making is, this, our government, still, to some degree, rises and falls with the voters' pleasure. NOT China. If the next Grand Poobah over there orders them all back into communes, or into brigades for nuclear war...they will do it. A few will get shot and a few more run over by tanks, but on the whole they will do it.

    We can't hurt them. Those who might feel the pain, have no say-so

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    For once I agree with PC. These are two VERY different systems. China is neither a democracy nor a free society. They have only liberties - including, now, the liberty to buy and sell and "own" property.

    They also have Social Credit Scores which determine who may enjoy modern Western perks, like air transport.

    Point I'm making is, this, our government, still, to some degree, rises and falls with the voters' pleasure. NOT China. If the next Grand Poobah over there orders them all back into communes, or into brigades for nuclear war...they will do it. A few will get shot and a few more run over by tanks, but on the whole they will do it.

    We can't hurt them. Those who might feel the pain, have no say-so
    Pain is not the object.

    Incapacity is the object.

    Yes, we can hurt them. Very much so.

    We probably don't want to though, at least not yet.

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    The facts are these. The trade war wasnít even Mr. Trumpís idea, it was suggested by Peter Navarro, the trade secretary who opinioned that no one would stand up against US sanctions. They did in a tit for tat, which hurts the US just as much. You canít be a strong economy $23 tr in debt through raising a debt ceiling and keep printing money. What you see is a blip as a $1.3 tr was pumped into the economy through tax cuts and that wonít last long.

    This suggestion that China is built on smoke and mirrors has been doing the rounds for decades but their GDP never falls below 6%. It starts to hurt? The Chinese devalue their Yuan and carry on. Meanwhile theyíre dumping the dollar and US bonds and buying gold and that's apart from the estimated $1.12 tr debt they own.

    Chinese GDP Ė this isnít smoke and mirrors. China became a capitalist economy and the US embraced socialist policies for eight years. It would be strange if it wasnít like this.

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    Warning: you can be a communist and an imperialist at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Warning: you can be a communist and an imperialist at the same time.
    True, but if you’re referring to China it’s using economics to prosper, not conquests by force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    True, but if you’re referring to China it’s using economics to prosper, not conquests by force.
    It's a velvet hammer and a Teflon sickle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    It's a velvet hammer and a Teflon sickle.
    It’s capitalism. The penny finally dropped and they’re racing ahead.
    "Verbal waterboarding" - Stimulating the cerebral cortex and producing prolonged periods of mirth. Chop. P, Chops Encyclopedia of Knowledge, 2018, TPF Edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan40 View Post
    Pork is expensive since they bought SMITHFIELD HAMS?
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    It didn't help when a large portion of their domestic hog herd got a disease and couldn't be consumed.

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