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    Post And Now For The Rest Of The Story... An Interesting Theory.

    Interesting - Trump has said that he didn't want to be the world's policeman, wasting money and manpower on things that are not in our country's interest. It's about time. Nation building is very expensive, difficult and dangerous if you are not dealing with a homogeneous people. We are not good at being international policemen.

    When we attacked Iraq, I told my neighbor that we would quickly defeat Sadam's military, but have a big problem after we won - dealing with Sunni's and Shiahs


    And now for the rest of the story... an interesting theory.

    An article to ponder…….



    U.S. Navy Suckers Iran into Shooting Down Surplus Drone: Scores Big Intelligence Coup


    Intentionally or not, in the current contest of wills with Iran, the United States is now in a dominant geo-political and military position. Intentionally or not, the United States now has the most accurate, comprehensive intelligence on Iran’s order of battle that any adversary has ever harvested from its opponent in history. We may not have arrived at this point due to a clever plan but we are here just the same, so let me describe where “here” is.



    Iran was caught seeding mines into the strait of Hormuz in, what many believe, was an attempt to stage a heroic rescue of international sailors who were victims of the instability caused by the reckless actions of the President of the United States. That plan did not survive contact when the freighters did not sink and the USS Bainbridge arrived on scene to stop the Iranians from pushing one the disabled freighters into Iranian waters.



    Days later the Iranians shot down a U.S. Global Hawk drone. This was no ordinary Global Hawk, it was a RQ-4N BAMS-D (Broad Area Maritime Surveillance-Demonstrator) flown into the area of operations just days prior. It had been the proof of concept demonstrator for the new navy RQ-4C Triton maritime surveillance drone, but that program was finished and the demonstrators headed to the bone yard. At the last minute that changed and one was sent to the UAE. Why? It did not bring any new capabilities, it wasn’t needed, there are no units set up to crew the beast, what good could it have done?



    I’m not sure, but here is a theory. That platform was sent to be sacrificed in an effort to fine tune our intelligence of Iranian anti-air order of battle. The drone was headed for demobilization anyway; what is the downside to using it for a baited ambush?



    The Iranians shot down a drone for which the United States had no further use. The Iranians contend that we flew the drone into their airspace; we say we didn’t. I say what would you do with the most sophisticated, disposable drone in history? One that is designed to run well below the normal Global Hawk mission profile I might add. One that is so damn big it looks like a jet on radar. What would you do with an asset like that?



    I’d run that asset right into the teeth of the Iranian air defense system and record exactly what they do, how long it takes for them to scramble, and how quickly they acquire and shoot me down. How valuable is that intelligence? What are the chances we are customizing our future attack packages based on that intelligence?



    It gets better. We stage a raid saying we will not tolerate any state shooting down our drones. At the last second the President decides to turn the planes around, he doesn’t want to spill blood over a drone. He says any further provocations will be dealt with harshly and is immediately criticized for his indecision. How much intelligence did that feint of a raid generate?



    More importantly, do you believe President Trump when he says any more provocations and the gloves come off? Is there any doubt in your mind that if the gloves do come off the information gleaned from the shoot down/feint raid will prove critical?



    Granted, I would be far more comfortable if the Mattis/Dunford team were heading up this campaign, but, regardless of how we got here, we are in the driver’s seat. And it still keeps getting better.



    Concurrent with the feint raid was a real cyber-attack that knocked out Iranian missile control systems. Know a unique aspect of a cyber-attack? It produces no pictures.



    Pictures cause problems, and right now President Trump has no problems. Had he gone with traditional strike package he would have big problems from the pictures of dead kids caught in collateral damage. If we had not caused the collateral damage casualties the Iranians would have done so themselves. That is how the Iranians play the game and we have known that for decades.



    The narrative would have been ‘Bad Orange Man strikes because he is unstable. Innocent Persians suffer because Americans need their oil’. The narrative never changes and is impervious to facts. The facts are we do not need oil from the middle east and we don’t need bombers to deliver a crippling blow to a state in our cross-hairs.



    Following the script of the traditional Middle East North Africa (MENA) Kubuki Theater play book:



    President Trump launches a retaliatory strike with air and rocket assets. Congress and the media immediately play their assigned roles by preemptively declaring that congress must authorize any military conflict with Iran.



    BUT, we have been fighting around the world for 18 years in every clime and place with a continuing resolution passed by George Bush in 2001. Why do all these congressmen suddenly want to get involved with military strikes in the middle east? We’ve been dropping bombs and droning people non-stop there for 18 years and now they care?



    Congress has removed itself from the oversight of our military by refusing to do the work required, by law, to get proper authorizations for the use of military force. How many times did former SecDef Mattis and the CJCOS General Dunford say during congressional testimony that they would welcome and, in fact need congress to do its job in that respect? The question answers itself while amplifying, to the American public, serial congressional incompetence at a vital function they assigned themselves with the War Powers Act over forty years ago.



    President Trump has used the current crisis to point out inconvenient truths. He has asked why we are protecting shipping lanes we do not need ( without compensation) for too long. Trump has asked why we are shouldering the burden of keeping the straits open to benefit China when the Chinese are stealing us blind and working against our interests.



    I understand that keeping the world’s shipping lanes running smoothly and safely is in the best interests of the largest economy in the world. Instability in world markets cause prices to rise and that hurts everybody - who in the world wants to see the price of oil rise?



    We do. Oil is selling around $65 a barrel, so get that price around $100 and thePermian Basin and the Eagle Ford Shale plays (these fields are in Texas, New Mexico and Mexico) will explode. The one country in the world that would benefit from a significant rise in the price of oil is the United States. The one country no credible person would accuse of manipulating world oil prices is the United States. The position of being the hegemon, who does not put his thumb on the scale, is one Americans shoulder willingly. But we have been taken advantage of by too many for too long and the American people are sick of it.



    Iran just got a good taste of the Trump Doctrine, and what has that cost them? Untold millions of dollars and man-hours to replace and repair their missile control system, which means? They are now Open Kimono. They know we know their air defense system inside and out and their missile control systems are down hard. If we struck hard there is not one damn thing they could do about it. They know it, we know it, and now you know it.



    President Trump became the first American President to set foot in North Korea. That too may be a coincidence. But the coincidences are piling up and all of them favor President Trump.



    Intentionally or not we are making significant progress in central Asia and the middle-east which is something we have never done in my lifetime. It will be fascinating to see what future historians write about this time in history. Intentionally or not, Donald Trump is transforming, right in front of our eyes, into one the greatest presidents in American history.


    https://www.sofmag.com/u-s-navy-suckers-iran-into-shooting-down-surplus-drone-scores-big-intelligence-coup/
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    What an outstanding article!

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    I take it that’s the American media version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    I take it that’s the American media version.
    Nah, it's just some guy with a tin foil hat.

    If it were American Media it would have come from AP or Reuters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Nah, it's just some guy with a tin foil hat.

    If it were American Media it would have come from AP or Reuters.
    It certainly made me smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    It certainly made me smile.
    I smile when I realize the US Army managed to infect Iranian computers which are not connected to the internet. That makes me grin from ear-to-ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    I smile when I realize the US Army managed to infect Iranian computers which are not connected to the internet. That makes me grin from ear-to-ear.
    Its magic, happens all the time. At first I always wondered why I was getting viruses when I wasn’t even connected to the Internet.
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