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    As a good, a university degree is not worth it. Nowhere NEAR worth it.

    As a stepping stone to a chosen occupation, it may be. Depending on the field. If you want to study architecture or electrical engineering, the only way to do it is to get technical training. Cost can be kept down - Today's Army Wants To Join YOU!! But, yeah.

    If you want to study history, Lesbian Dance Theory or flower arranging, then correspondence schools are probably a better deal. University of Phoenix or just get reading lists and hit the library. You can be an idler wastrel for free - you don't need to spend $100,000 a year to have some 1960s retread tell you to read Dickens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sargentodiaz View Post
    You’ll be blown away to learn who’s asking the question!
    A college professor for 25 years.
    He talks about how much it costs to get a degree. Between $60 and $200k. I think that’s an underestimate and doesn’t count all the professional students who spend decades getting their doctorates.
    A graduate can make good money in STEM, particularly in engineering. But fewer students major in science than other areas.
    If someone took the cost of four years of college–and that assumes students finish in that time–and invested the money into the stock market or a house, the estimated $20,000-a-year gap between the salary of a high school grad and a college grad shrinks considerably.
    Moreover, there are a lot of jobs where high school grads can make a lot of money.
    It’s something I’ve frequently posted about and it surprises me to see it coming from a professor.
    A college degree is NOT worth it unless the person goes into a field with high pay and lots of open jobs. As you said, engineering can be one of those areas.

    Most young people, especially millennial kids, don't have a clue what they want to do 20 years down the road and given their state of mind, it is doubtful that they want to do the same thing for that long.

    A doctorate is not worth the time and effort if one wants to be a college professor. It is difficult to get tenure now, and ad junct professors don't make much.......probably not even enough to pay their student loans and live at the same time.

    It's all about choosing the right degree and liking what you chose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam browne View Post
    you can make good money but not great money without a degree
    but you also have the lack of prestige and respect without the degree
    and the people you associate with will be others without a degree

    so if that is not the social level you are happy with then the lack of degree will be a negative

    clearly art history and studies type programs wont pay off financially
    and most liberal artsycraftsy courses are a waste too
    So you think a machinist or electrician or welder will be sucking hind tit to an accountant or medical billing and coding graduate?

    As to the red, so what? Some of the most "educated" i know, are the most useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam browne View Post
    you can make good money but not great money without a degree
    but you also have the lack of prestige and respect without the degree
    and the people you associate with will be others without a degree
    so if that is not the social level you are happy with then the lack of degree will be a negative

    clearly art history and studies type programs wont pay off financially
    and most liberal artsycraftsy courses are a waste too
    What you are talking about, are entirely-different reasons for attending.

    There is advanced technical training - the kind you get in STEM, law or medicine.

    And there is the Class-Consciousness-Raising reason - why spoiled scions of rich men went to the same universities, the same undemanding coursework.

    The first is a good reason to attend. The second - I urinate on it. College is not finishing school and has not been for many decades. Far from a centre of higher learning, it's now a sump of lower living and bestiality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam browne View Post
    you can make good money but not great money without a degree
    but you also have the lack of prestige and respect without the degree
    and the people you associate with will be others without a degree
    so if that is not the social level you are happy with then the lack of degree will be a negative

    clearly art history and studies type programs wont pay off financially
    and most liberal artsycraftsy courses are a waste too
    Not necessarily true. My husband doesn't have a degree but I do. Everyone we associate with (including all of our children) have degrees.

    Choice of degree makes a big difference in whether one can earn from it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    As a good, a university degree is not worth it. Nowhere NEAR worth it.

    As a stepping stone to a chosen occupation, it may be. Depending on the field. If you want to study architecture or electrical engineering, the only way to do it is to get technical training. Cost can be kept down - Today's Army Wants To Join YOU!! But, yeah.

    If you want to study history, Lesbian Dance Theory or flower arranging, then correspondence schools are probably a better deal. University of Phoenix or just get reading lists and hit the library. You can be an idler wastrel for free - you don't need to spend $100,000 a year to have some 1960s retread tell you to read Dickens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Star View Post
    If the degree comes with indoctrination then no it isn't worth it, because the kind of person you will be coming out of it isn't worth hiring.
    If they aren't worth hiring in the private sector, the only option left is to run for political office as a Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If they aren't worth hiring in the private sector, the only option left is to run for political office as a Democrat.
    That's basically what a Liberal Arts degree at an Ivy League indoctrination camp is for, these days.

    To get the initiatee a good job - IN GOVERNMENT.

    That is what they are trained for; and today, that is where the best jobs are. Manufacturing or designing things, makes little money and exposes you to the whims of regulators. Crony businesses that depend on Rent Seeking connections, pay better - move money, or sell overpriced goods to government, or petition government for a protective exclusive franchise. There's more money in that, and more challenge, staying out of prison.

    But the TOP SPOTS, are in the regulatory agencies. That is what top university "students" aim to fill.

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    it depends on the degree...

    a degree in "african dance" is most likely worthless, as are most liberal arts degrees.

    one in say, the hard sciences,, math etc. will most likely be more applicable in the real world.

    if you get one in "womans studies" you limit yourself to waiting for your lesbian professor who taught you to retire...
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