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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Threats Versus Disapproval "

    * Motivational Focus *

    Would it be sufficient to state that force and fear qualify as aggression ; and , should a distinction be made between legitimate aggression and illegitimate aggression ?

    The non aggression principles does not make distinction between legitimate versus illegitimate aggression and categorizes all aggression as illegitimate .
    Legitimization of aggression(s) is covered under law and governance, however, it clearly exists outside of those established governmental bodies, elected or unelected. (The theocracy of KSA Kings and Princes legitimizes their aggression, as does a Federal Republic like America.)

    You would have to specify exactly what you are proposing, regarding non aggressive principles. Is it something along the line of Ghandi, as a global initiative, by somebody, somehow...which would mean somebody(s) would have to apply force for that initiative - which then of course would lead to a massive vacuum that tyranny would fill almost immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Aggressive About The Rules "

    * How To Perceive Those Maintaining A Creed That Would Implement Violence When Possible *

    A threat to implement violence , to implement illegitimate aggression against the self ownership or self determination of an other individual , is speech ; does that not make it violence , or deprive those subject to it of self defence ?

    When speech is is aggressive , that does not necessarily mean it is illegitimate aggression ; thus , the insufficiency of non aggression principles to make a distinction is again established .

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    My method of writing is intended to inform those who may need to apply it .
    "A threat to implement violence , to implement illegitimate aggression against the self ownership or self determination of an other individual , is speech ; does that not make it violence , or deprive those subject to it of self defence ? "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadianeye View Post
    Legitimization of aggression(s) is covered under law and governance, however, it clearly exists outside of those established governmental bodies, elected or unelected. (The theocracy of KSA Kings and Princes legitimizes their aggression, as does a Federal Republic like America.) You would have to specify exactly what you are proposing, regarding non aggressive principles. Is it something along the line of Ghandi, as a global initiative, by somebody, somehow...which would mean somebody(s) would have to apply force for that initiative - which then of course would lead to a massive vacuum that tyranny would fill almost immediately.
    The proposal is for a direct consistent application of the terms non violence and non aggression , where non violence rejects illegitimate aggression , where non aggression rejects aggression .

    Hence , at least marginally , non aggression represents meekness if not pacifism .

    The definition of aggression within non aggression principles as threats or physical actions against self ownership ( free roam , free association , progeny ) of individualism , or against self determination ( private property , wilful intentions ) of individualism , can be ported to non violence principles as a definition of illegitimate aggression that defines a meaning for violence .
    Last edited by Monk-Eye; 05-17-2019 at 04:38 PM.

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