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    Looks like a pretty good reason to move to a red state to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    Are we getting the whole picture on this issue? If not then it is surreal. The incarceration implies to me that the little girl is a menace to herself or possibly to others, which is a justification for shutting someone up. How can a little girl, paralyzed and malnourished, be much of a threat to anyone?
    A lot of people have been asking the same thing. "The family MUST be "weird" or something to deserve this." But there's nothing that comes up. I'd encourage you to find out on your own. This issue has really blown up into a nation wide story over the past few days. But here's something to consider up front: If this family is such a danger to their one daughter who has this mito disease that Boston has to seize custody, then why are they allowed to keep their other daughter who has the very same illness!? THAT is the weird part. Boston feels it's necessary to take their one daughter and save her from "Munchousen's by proxy" (their explanation for her symptoms) but they leave the other daughter in this supposedly "dangerous" environment--so dangerous they had to seize custody of Justina.

    Justina was never a menace to anyone. But keep in mind: When they took her from Tufts and put her in a psych ward via Boston Children's Hospital she was walking. A year later in the psych ward she is in a wheel chair with no feeling from her waste down. And meanwhile her sister (the one with the same genetic disease) is doing fine. Something is definitely surreal here--and it's Boston Children's Hospital.

    It starts to make sense if you consider BCH simply screwed up with their "Munchousen's by proxy" diagnosis and are desparately trying to save face. And if she dies. . .well, people die in the hospital all the time. Nothing new there.

    If she's pulled out and Drs. Korson and Flores resume treatement like they were doing at Tufts, and she improves. . .BCH looks like a psych ward/butcher shop right out of a Stephen King novel. Yeah, they have a lot to lose by releasing custody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victory View Post
    MA is so small and Harvard is so powerful the issue can't be resolved inside Massachussetts. They need pressure from outside the state to help them make the right decision. Hey, the president said it himself, "I have a pen and I have a phone."
    What? Is Taxacusetts a total Gun-Free Zone, so the State Police can't march into Harvard and TAKE the child out and TAKE out the doctors who attempt to stand in their way?

    The state has the power, it's choosing not to use it.

    Why?

    However, the people of the Red States (red is the color of communism, and the color of their Kool-Aid, don't call a Red State blue, unless it's sad) CHOSE to have a police state, now they're learning that police states aren't their friend.

    Too bad for the kid, the father should have performed some doctor-ectomies a while ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victory View Post
    A lot of people have been asking the same thing. "The family MUST be "weird" or something to deserve this." But there's nothing that comes up. I'd encourage you to find out on your own. This issue has really blown up into a nation wide story over the past few days. But here's something to consider up front: If this family is such a danger to their one daughter who has this mito disease that Boston has to seize custody, then why are they allowed to keep their other daughter who has the very same illness!? THAT is the weird part. Boston feels it's necessary to take their one daughter and save her from "Munchousen's by proxy" (their explanation for her symptoms) but they leave the other daughter in this supposedly "dangerous" environment--so dangerous they had to seize custody of Justina.

    Justina was never a menace to anyone. But keep in mind: When they took her from Tufts and put her in a psych ward via Boston Children's Hospital she was walking. A year later in the psych ward she is in a wheel chair with no feeling from her waste down. And meanwhile her sister (the one with the same genetic disease) is doing fine. Something is definitely surreal here--and it's Boston Children's Hospital.

    It starts to make sense if you consider BCH simply screwed up with their "Munchousen's by proxy" diagnosis and are desparately trying to save face. And if she dies. . .well, people die in the hospital all the time. Nothing new there.

    If she's pulled out and Drs. Korson and Flores resume treatement like they were doing at Tufts, and she improves. . .BCH looks like a psych ward/butcher shop right out of a Stephen King novel. Yeah, they have a lot to lose by releasing custody.
    Exactly.

    They're not going to let that kid go unless she's in a small ceramic jar.
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    Any updates on her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    Any updates on her?
    Not specifically on her but her family.

    Yesterday her father, Lou, got smacked with a contempt of court charge for going public with this issue. Earlier this week he went on the Glenn Beck show after they had done about six months of investigation trying to find something that didn't add up with his story. They determined he is legit and invited him on the show. Beck has a 50 million person "footprint" every month if you add up all the cable, internet, and podcast views so it's a growing news source. Yesterday, he was on "The Kelly File" with Megan Kelly and he basically repeated it all again. He could go to jail and fined heavily over this.

    He was asked, "Are you worried about that?" He said, "Hey, we're all in. I'm here to save my daughter. Nothing else matters."

    He has a court date coming up very soon (a week or so?) dealing with her situation.

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    Thanks to the father violating the state issued gag order there is some positive movement in this case...

    Massachusetts lawmakers are getting involved in the Justina Pelletier case and have begun circulating a resolution asking the Department of Children and Families (DCF) to initiate the process of releasing the teenager to her parents.

    State Reps. Marc Lombard and Jim Lyons, both Republicans, announced on Wednesday that 12 representatives have already signed on to support the resolution.

    It was also revealed on Wednesday that Justina Pelletier will not be transferred to foster care against her parents wishes after the Shared Living Collaborative declined to accept the girl due to the national attention surrounding the case, according the Boston Globe, which cites unnamed sources.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...o-foster-care/

    It was also reported on Glenn Beck's radio program that a wealthy listener donated a legal defense team to help the family. When faced with an expensive legal team, the Massachusetts DCF objected in court to them representing the family and the judge sided with the DCF. Also, when the girl's mother was allowed her weekly one hour visit, there were five DCF employees and an armed Mass. state trooper in the room with her. The DCF people allegedly ridiculed the mother when she expressed concern over red lines forming around the incision made by the unnecessary surgery performed by BCH, which are an indication of sepsis.
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    Another update...

    Gag order was lifted and a judge approved moving Justina to Tuft's Medical Center, the family's preferred provider. The family is looking into suing DCF.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...eGJ/story.html
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    Another update...

    A judge gave DCF permanent custody of Justina with a review every six months. If this isn't tyranny, I don't know what is...

    On Tuesday, the judge issued a ruling that gave permanent custody of Justina to DCF, subject to review every six months, a decision that was a serious setback to the parents’ efforts to get their daughter back home.

    As one compromise measure, DCF and the judge have agreed to allow Pelletier’s medical and psychiatric care to be handled by Tufts, starting as soon as this week, an acknowledgment that Tufts is the hospital the parents preferred all along and that it would be best to end the parents’ antagonistic relationship with Children’s Hospital.


    Also Friday, the House Republican leadership sent a letter to Governor Deval Patrick asking him to “open the line of communication” with Governor Dannel Malloy of Connecticut and “work to facilitate the safe and prompt return of Justina to Connecticut.”


    The lawmakers’ letter comes largely in response to the ruling by Johnston this week, in which he also urged stepped-up efforts to get the girl’s clinical and legal case transferred back to her home state. Johnston’s written ruling rebuked the Connecticut Department of Children and Families for failing to get more involved in taking custody of the teenager.
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...U9O/story.html

    The psychiatrist at Children's Hospital that made the diagnosis that Justina was suffering from a mental disorder (after a 25 minute interview) is also receiving a federal grant from NIH to study the alleged psychosis, five other incidents of similar kidnapping have occurred at Children's Hospital. It seems the psychiatrist needs guinea pigs.
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