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    When one of my cousins announced she was going to homeschool her kids, my sister and I had a good laugh.

    This particular cousin, you see, is an illiterate idiot, who didn't even finish high school.

    Thank God, for the sake of her children, she came to the realization, she couldn't handle it.
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    I want to address a couple of things you said. "in home school you have idiots teach kids in subjects they know nothing about". Yes. I am weak in science. But I used strong curriculum and ended up with a son who is a chemical engineer anyway. So it can be done right.

    You are right in that some quirks held by parents are transferred to the kids.

    Jen I specifically put in this part "
    I have a relative that does homeschooling for their kids. Other than that I know nothing about it so I'll just talk about them." It was my relatives that I was talking about. Picture a wife that is dumber than dirt. A father that makes a survivalist look like a liberal. Plus they live 30 miles outside a little town of maybe 4 or 5 thousand people. We are talking back woods kind of people (you can hear the banjo in the background). Those people shouldn't have been allowed to have kids but they did. But they shouldn't for sure have been allowed to home school them. Sadly I could add a lot more about them to show that they were totally unsuited but I think maybe you will get the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Tex View Post
    I have a relative that does homeschooling for their kids. Other than that I know nothing about it so I'll just talk about them. The problem that I would see in home schooling is that you have idiots teach (or guiding) kids in subjects that they know nothing about. Also any quirks/problems/abnormal views held by the adults are transferred to the kids because of little contact with other children & maybe others in general.

    My wife once had a group of teens working for her. One of them had been homeschooled. One day he wasn't there & she heard the others talking about him. They agreed that he was the first homeschooled person that they had ever met that was "normal". Make of that what you will.
    My wife (mostly) and I (some) homeschooled our three K-12. One is in China studying Chinese Language and Culture at a university in central China (where Westerners are less common). One has a Business degree, but works at a software company basically doing things he taught/learned himself. And our third has "some college" and is a preschool teacher.

    Your generalization, "you have idiots teach," is foolish. Homeschoolers are just too complex to generalize that way. Having become acquainted, in varying degrees, with between 1000 and 2000 homeschooling families, I say that based on some experience. Further, your generalization has an underlying assumption, that homeschooled students are only taught by their parents, that is very incorrect. Starting from the nuclear family and working outward ... there are these things called libraries, which homeschooling families very frequently. Books store knowledge, and homeschooled students are able to learn things their parents may not know. There are these things called grandparents, neighbors and friends, who, similarly, are sources of knowledge (among other things). Homeschoolers are VERY networked, with support groups, sports leagues, and much else. Among the things these networks do are field trips and co-op classes. Need I say more? I realize that states vary, but our children (following a path many homeschooling families have followed) were concurrently enrolled in the local JC while we were doing high school with them.

    That one could find or encounter a homeschooled student who did poorly, I don't doubt. But generalizing from one or a very few is fallacious when one is speaking of a group that spans pretty much the full range US demographics. That said, NHERI (mentioned in the linked article) and Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) have been studying the performance of homeschoolers and using that data in courts for over three decades (IIRC, we joined HSLDA in 1987 or 1988). And their studies/findings have withstood challenge in court. So when NHERI says that homeschooled students, as a population, are doing well academically, they've done the work to reach that conclusion.

    Anyone want to take up the "What about socialization" objection?
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    My oldest son went to public school his entire life. Got straight A’s from k-4, then A’s and E’s from 5-11. Made honor roll in 12th, entered Navy as E-3 with 26 college credits, first of 600 at A-school for nuclear engineering, left after six with two chevrons, and now does rockets as a think tank member for the richest person in the world. Public schooling can be great, only if the student makes it happen. Mommy and daddy gotta let them guide their own path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey1 View Post
    When one of my cousins announced she was going to homeschool her kids, my sister and I had a good laugh.

    This particular cousin, you see, is an illiterate idiot, who didn't even finish high school.

    Thank God, for the sake of her children, she came to the realization, she couldn't handle it.
    I dealt with people who claimed to be home schooling their kids but the kids were actually getting no schooling. The parents were junkies, alcoholics, bums, and just lazy twits who didn't want to bother getting the kids up and off to school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    I dealt with people who claimed to be home schooling their kids but the kids were actually getting no schooling. The parents were junkies, alcoholics, bums, and just lazy twits who didn't want to bother getting the kids up and off to school.
    Never met one of those, but I traveled in the wrong circles. Those types are the kind that will say they don't know how the baggie of weed got in their pocket. People like that can and will say whatever they think will benefit them.

    The problem comes when real homeschoolers are tarred with the flakes by dishonest educrats, CPS bureaucrats, union thugs, and politicians. Why burden the freedom of hundreds of thousands of law-abiding families because of flakes who wouldn't know an unschooler for a school-at-home-er?
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    Way back in the early 80s, we homeschooled our 4 kids, living in a corrupt, godless urban wasteland. We knew many other homeschoolers, and social interactions were with them. But we moved to rural Arizona, and the small country school had a community feel, and we transitioned our kids to public schools. They are all grown, now, and have the usual problems of anyone indoctrinated by a state sponsored belief system. Drugs, sex, rock and roll were more influential than the beliefs of the parents, but all are functioning normally, without dependency, in the world. Their spiritual development is between them & God, and we can only leave it at that.

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    Where I come from homeschooling goes hand in hand with school district requirements.
    If a parent doesn't have the educational skills to teach physics, the district is required to have the student attend physics class on campus or via long distance instruction.

    The district does not lose funding for homeschoolers because the district is still the backup and support of the homeschooled students.

    What I have witnessed through at least four families of homeschoolers is not only do they receive 'district' requirements, but are taught subjects like REAL history!

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    Homeschool Family's Van Runs Out Of Window Space For Stick Figure Kids


    RED RIDGE, WV—The Netherton family, known by their neighbors as "that nice but kinda weird homeschooling family," was forced to buy another 15-passenger van after their current commercial-class van ran out of window space for stick figure kids again.

    "We just need to upgrade to something with a lot more window space to keep up with all these stick figure kids we keep having to add to our decal," said Fred Netherton, family patriarch and full-time construction project manager. "They just don't make vans like they used to, where you could slap 100 stick figure kids on the window no problem."

    His wife, Kathy, agreed. "I've got triplets in the oven right now," she said as she made dinner, taught 36 of their kids math and 10 others English, and cleaned the house. "As soon as Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego pop out, we're gonna be completely out of room on the back of our van."

    "It's really sad to see more vehicle manufacturers don't make massive windows to contain all these adorable, precious little decals."




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    But. anecdotal evidence aside, home schooling does work. My kids went to public school but they got a large dose of home schooling, too. They learned at home that the Holocaust really did happen and that spelling, punctuation, and structure do matter when writing. The history teacher was teaching that the Holocaust never happened and the English teacher was teaching that spelling, grammar, punctuation, and structure were cultural constructs and all that matters is your ideas.

    Some kids manage in spite of public schools but the left has totally destroyed the education system.

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