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    What would survival style off-grid living look like in Australia?

    Australia has large deserts and mountains, like the USA. Would it be the same, to set up a camp at those places, as it would be in like Arizona? I hear Australia has a lot fewer criminals, plus the climate is much less hostile too. Is this right?
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    I have friends that live there but I have never been. I have seen movies on the History channel but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostbeyond View Post
    Australia has large deserts and mountains, like the USA. Would it be the same, to set up a camp at those places, as it would be in like Arizona? I hear Australia has a lot fewer criminals, plus the climate is much less hostile too. Is this right?
    Hi, I believe I am one of the few Aussies here and Trinity asked me to comment here.

    Yes Australia has large deserts and what we call mountains, but our mountains are nothing compared to those in the US. Our deserts though are something else. I have been down the west coast of the USA. California, Nevada and Arizona. Drove from LA to Las Vagas so skirted the edge of the Mojave Desert. Stopped off at a ghost town in the Mojave and boy was it hot, but similar to our deserts. Arizona was another story, bloody cacti, never seen so many

    Now our deserts, there are 10 deserts in Australia, the Victorian Desert being the largest (oh and it is not in Victoria )

    It is approx. 163,900 sq mi whilst the Mojave is approx. 47,877 sq mi. The rainfall range is 200 - 250 mm a year, but the rain is unreliable. The Mojave gets around 300mm a year. The days in summer are hot, anything between 30 and 40C (90 - 105F) whilst the Mojave is hotter, 120 F (49 C), hence my comment.

    The main difference besides size is the location, you drive across the Mojave desert between LA and LV, whilst the GVD is OUTBACK, a long lonely drive.

    This link will tell you about it. http://www.outback-australia-travel-...ia-desert.html

    Size is the biggest difference, in Australia we think nothing of distance, travelling a few thousand kilometers for a holiday is the norm.

    A good example is whilst mainland USA consists of 50 states, and is roughly the same size as mainland Australia, it contains only 5 counting the Norther Territory as a state.

    Australia also has the worlds largest working cattle station (ranch) which is around 7 times larger than the King Ranch in Texas.

    Australia is an advanced, dynamic country, that has done more than it's fair share towards the world considering it's location and population.

    Inventiveness an sports seem to be where we lead. On another forum I posted a thread about our inventiveness, something that as a scientist I am very proud of.

    1838 Pre Paid Postage : Postmaster-General of New South Wales, James Raymond 1843 Grain Stripper : John Ridley and John Bull of South Australia
    1855 The Secrete Ballot (The Australian Ballot)
    1856 Refrigerator: James Harrison - to cool beer of course
    1858 Football: Tom Will and Henry Harrison wrote the first ten rules of Football, thus becoming the first people in the world to codify a kicking-ball game. These rules predate those of Rugby, Soccer and Gridiron. Football may have been inspired by the Aboriginal jumping/kicking game of Marn Grook.
    1874 The underwater torpedo: Louis Brennan
    1876 Stump jump plough: Robert and Clarence Bowyer Smith
    1885 Telpahane: Henry Sutton Forerunner to television
    1879 Refrigeration: Eugene Nicolle and Thomas Sutcliffe Mort shipboard refrigeration for meat transport.
    1889 Electric Drill - Arthur James Arnot Melbourne
    1894 First powered flight : Lawrence Hargrave discovered that curved surfaces lift more than flat ones. He subsequently built the world's first box-kite, hitched four together, added an engine and flew five metres.


    Hargrave corresponded freely with other aviation pioneers, including the Wright Brothers. But unlike the Americans who monopolised their ideas, Hargrave never patented his. Because it promised public access, Hargrave left all his research to the Munich Museum.
    1897 Differential gears: David Shearer of South Australia
    1898 Teleprinter
    1900s: The 'Australian Crawl': For most of human history, humans didn't know how to swim effectively. In the 1900s, Australians invented the Australian Crawl that has since become known as 'overarm' or 'freestyle' swimming stroke.
    1902 Notepad: For 500 years, paper had been supplied in loose sheets. J A Birchall decided that it would be a good idea to cut the sheets into half, back them with cardboard and glue them together at the top.
    1903 Froth flotation process: The process of separating minerals from rock by flotation was developed by Charles Potter and Guillaume Delprat of New South Wales.
    1906 Feature film: The world's first feature length film, The Story of the Kelly Gang, was a little over an hour long.
    1906 Surf life-saving reel: designer Lester Ormsby
    1907 Xerography (Xerox Photocopying)
    1907 First international ski tournament: won by Charles Menger (Denver, USA), second was R. Paterson (Australia) third was Earl Prince (England)
    1910 Humespun process: Method of making concrete pipes
    1912 The tank: A South Australian named Lance de Mole submitted a proposal, to the British War Office. The British war office liked the idea but then developed the tank themselves without paying royalties.
    1913 Automatic totalisator: Sir George Julius.
    1917 Aspro: George Nicholas
    1922 Vegemite: Dr. Cyril P. Callister
    1924 Car radio
    1925 The Record Changer
    1927 Speedos
    1928 Electronic Pacemaker
    1928 Flying Doctor Service: Reverend John Flynn
    1930 Clapperboard by guess who, Frank Thring Sr
    1930s Sister Elizabeth Kenny, a bush nurse working in country New South Wales and Queensland, developed a radically new and controversial method of treating children with polio. Her work went on to be internationally acclaimed and is regarded as providing important foundations to the discipline now known as physiotherapy.


    1930s The Humidicrib
    1930s Nuclear Fusion: Mark Oliphant. This fusion reaction formed the basis of a hydrogen bomb
    1934 The utility vehicle (Ute) Ford Motor Company, Geelong Victoria
    1938 Polocrosse
    1939 Degaussing of ships
    1940 Zinc Cream
    1942 Transverse folding stroller: Designed by Harold Cornish
    1943 Splayd
    1944 Antibiotic penicillin: Produced by Howard Florey with help from an Englishman Ernst Chain
    1945 Rotary clothes line: Lance Hill
    1945 Latex Gloves
    1946 Castors
    1948 Dr John Cade, a Melbourne psychiatrist, discovered the use of lithium carbonate (usually just referred to as lithium) in the treatment of bipolar and similar disorders.
    1952 Victor mower: Mervyn Victor Richardson
    1950s Distance Measuring Equipment: Every airliner in the world uses a piece of navigation equipment called DME.
    1952 Atomic absorption spectrophotometer: Sir Alan Walsh CSIRO
    1953 Solar hot water - Developed by R N Morse CSIRO
    1957 Flame ionisation detector: Ian McWilliam
    1958 Black box flight recorder: Dr David Warren Melbourne

    Anything else you would ;like to know, just ask.

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    Continued from previous post.
    1960 Plastic spectacle lenses: Scientific Optical Laboratories1960 Salt water chlorination of domestic swimming pools
    1960s The self constructing tower crane. It is this Australian designed crane that has been used for the construction of many of the world's tallest buildings in recent decades such as the Petronas Towers in Kula Lumpur and most of the tallest buildings in Dubai.


    1961 Ultrasound: David Robinson and George Kossoff
    1965 Inflatable escape slide: Jack Grant Qantas.
    1965 Wine cask: Thomas Angrove
    1970 Variable rack and pinion steering: Arthur Bishop
    1970 Staysharp knife: Wiltshire
    1972 Orbital internal combustion engine: Ralph Sarich
    1972 Instream analysis
    1975 Zip Instant Boiling Water Heater
    1979 Race-cam; Geoff Healey Seven Network
    1979 Cochlear implant (Bionic ear): Professor Graeme Clark Melbourne
    1979 Digital sampler
    1982 The dual flush toilet
    1980 Wave-piercing catamarans: Phillip Hercus and Robert Clifford Tasmania
    1980 The National Integrity System, often called The Queensland Model, is acknowledged by just about every country around the world as well as by the United Nations and the World Bank as the benchmark approach for reducing corruption in public affairs. In the 1980s the Fitzgerald Inquiry in Queensland came up with a large number of recommendations for controlling corruption. New Zealand lawyer Jeremy Pope, founder of Transparency International, organised these recommendations into a 'system' which he called The National Integrity System.
    1983 Winged Keel: Ben Lexen and we won the America's cup so the yanks changed the rules.
    1984 Frozen embryo baby: Melbourne
    1984 Baby Safety Capsule
    1986 Gene shears: Wayne Gerlach and Jim Haseloff CSIRO
    1989 Polilight forensic lamp
    1992 Multi-focal contact lens: Stephen Newman Queensland.
    1992 Spray-on skin
    1992 Supersonic combustion: in an atmospheric flight test at Woomera on July 30, 2002. The craft reached speeds of more than Mach 8.
    1993 Scramjet The University of Queensland reported for the first time the development of a scramjet that achieved more thrust than drag. Does that means it went forward LOL
    1995 EXELGRAM The world's most sophisticated optical anti-counterfeiting technology was developed by the CSIRO
    1995 - Jindalee Radar System - The United States of America spent $11 billion developing an aeroplane that could not be detected by radar. Scientists at the CSIRO then concluded that if the plane could not be detected, perhaps the turbulance it makes passing through air could be. $1.5 million later, the Jindalee Radar system had transformed the stealth bomber into nothing more than an unusual looking aircraft.
    1996 Anti-flu Medication – Relenza
    1996 Hi-Speed Wi-Fi: During the 1990s, around 22 of the world’s computer firms were researching wi-fi as a way of connecting mobile phones and laptops to a wireless network. Wi-fi technology existed, but it was too slow to connect to the Internet. The CSIRO decided it could make use of the Fast Fourier Transform Chip, invented by Australian Dr John O’ Sullivan in the 1980s. Within six months they had invented Wi-fi. By 2000, the technology was being incorporated into computers and mobile phones the world over.
    2002 Hyshot Scramjet Engine - a very high speed air-breathing jet engine currently in the testing stage developed by a team from the University of Queensland led by Professor Allan Paull. In June 2007, it was successfully used to boost a test vehicle to hypersonic speeds

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