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    Okay.....that is enough the D/A side.....I feel ooky and dirty now like I need a shower.
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    F'k Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
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    What does it say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    Muslim Amazon workers say they don’t have enough time to pray. Now they’re fighting for their rights.


    East African immigrant workers in Minneapolis are rallying for fair treatment.

    As a practicing Muslim, Ibrahin tries to pray five times a day. But because Amazon has the warehouse associates working on a strict hourly packing quota, she says she cannot take a prayer break.

    https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/1...rs-minneapolis

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    LOLOLOL

    Is that supposed to be like Kryptonite?

    When I see it on the screen am I supposed to reel back in horror???

    The fact is that TERRORISM is an act of charity and mercy.

    It shows you how peaceful Islam is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolwalker View Post
    Perhaps Hitler went after the wrong people.

    D/A


    The topic is that Islamic terrorism is an act of benevolence and mercy.


    I guess you must agree with me.


    Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    Muslims were allies of Hitler.

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    Terrorism is an act of merciful moderation.



    Agreed?



    This is too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightkore View Post
    D/A

    Okay. Lets see.

    The act of terrorism where some faithful islamists mercifully sawed off the head of two infidel girls brings to light that they are doing the will of islams god & actually bringing mercy to those they terminated. They might in the next life find redemption. The islamists get a reward for helping those two girls into the "heaven". And then a further reward for warning other infidels.

    If terrorism was NOT instituted islamists & infidels would go to hell & ha-satan would be able to torture both here on earth too.

    So see terrorism is good not evil.
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    You must defend your point from a position of certainty so as to persuade others.

    I am not convinced because you are not persuasive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolwalker View Post
    I know that and it is a shame, yet then they do/did think alike.
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    Muslims are much more pleasant and easy to accept than the Nazis.


    And we only use terrorism to prevent full scale war.


    By killing a few or a few dozen or a few hundred or even a few thousand, we have gotten half of you Kafirs to surrender to us.


    4,000 killed on 9/11/01.


    But we now have our hooks in most of the American Leftists and Liberals.


    Great ratio.


    It is the most charitable and peaceful way to wage war and capture your country.


    Instilling fear in those who can be intimidated removes the need to try to kill you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leecross View Post
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    You must defend your point from a position of certainty so as to persuade others.

    I am not convinced because you are not persuasive.
    You would have a ball if Sooda was still here.

    D/A

    Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - Forced Conversion?

    Forced Conversion?

    So the foundation of Jihad is Islamic propagation (da’wah). The question often asked is whether Islam condones and teaches the forced and armed conversion of non-Muslims. This is the image sometimes projected by Western scholars and as any Muslim scholar will tell you, is seriously flawed. The Qur’an clearly states “There is no compulsion in religion, the path of guidance stands out clear from error” [2:256] and [60:8]. In this verse, the word “rushd” or “path of guidance” refers to the entire domain of human life, not just to the rites and theology of Islam.

    There is no debate about the fact that pre-Islamic Arabia was a misguided society dominated by tribalism and a blind obedience to custom. In contrast, the clarity of Islam and its emphasis on reason and rational proofs excluded any need to impose it by force. This verse is a clear indication that the Qur’an is strictly opposed to the use of compulsion in religious faith. Similarly, Allah addressed Sayiddina Muhammad r saying, “Remind them, for you are only one who reminds.” [88:21] Allah addresses the believers, urging them to obey the injunctions of Islam, “Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if you do turn back, then know that it is Our Messenger’s duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner.” [5:92] However, this verse makes it clear that the Messenger’s duty is only to proclaim and preach the message; it remains to each individual to accept and to follow.


    Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - Islamic Propagation


    Jihad and Islamic Propagation

    God says in the Qur’an, “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.” [16:125]

    Calling people to Islam and making them acquainted with it in all its aspects through dialogue and kind persuasion is the first type of Jihad in Islam, in contrast to the imagined belief that Jihad is only of the combative form. This is referred to in the Qur’an where Allah I says, “so obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them (by preaching) with the utmost endeavor with it (the Qur’an)” [25:52]. Here the word “strive”

    <jaahidu>, is used to mean struggle by means of the tongue—preaching and exhortation—and to persevere despite the obstinate resistance of some unbelievers to the beliefs and ideals of Islam.

    Imam Nawawi in his book al-Minhaj, when defining Jihad and its different categories, said, “one of the collective duties of the community as a whole (fard kifaya) is to lodge a valid protest, to solve problems of religion, to have knowledge of Divine Law, to command what is right and forbid wrong conduct”.4

    The explanation of Jihad in Imam al-Dardir’s book Aqarab al-Masalik is that it is propagating the knowledge of the Divine Law, commending right and forbidding wrong. He emphasized that it is not permitted to skip this category of Jihad and implement the combative form, saying, “the first [Islamic] duty is to call people to enter the fold of Islam, even if they had been preached to by the Prophet (saws) beforehand.”5 Similarly, Imam Bahouti commences the chapter on Jihad in his book Kashf al-Kinaa by showing the injunctions of collective religious duties (kifaya) that the Muslim Nation must achieve before embarking on combative Jihad, including preaching and education about the religion of Islam, dismissing all the uncertainties about this religion and making available all the skills and qualifications which people might need in their religious, secular, physical and financial interests because these constitute the regulations of both this life and the life to come. Hence, da`wah—performing the activities of propagating Islam and its related fields of knowledge—is the cornerstone of the ‘building’ of Jihad and its rules; and any attempt to build without this ‘stone’ would damage the meaning and reality of Jihad.6

    Removing all misconceptions and stereotypes in clarifying the image of Islam held by non-Muslims, building a trusting relationship and working with them in ways that accord with their way of thinking, are all primary forms of Jihad. Similarly, establishing a strong community and nation which can fulfill all physical needs of its people, thereby creating for them conditions in which the message will be heard, rather than being lost in the strife and struggle of everyday life, are requirements and form a basic building block of the Jihadic concept. These foundations fulfill the Qur’anic injunction, “Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: and these it is that shall be successful.” [3:104] Until this is accomplished the conditions of Jihad remain unfulfilled.

    {Really.....terrorism {Western propaganda} versus jihad is about bring peace.}
    We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. Winston Churchill

    Captain Cold
    : Make the plan, Execute the plan, Expect the plan to go off the rails, throw away the plan.

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