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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    the stock market crashed and killed the economy. what type of economic/social system was active in 1929 in the US????? are you saying a stock market, a big part of capitalism, is socialist?
    The economy makes the stock market. The stock market does not make the economy. Every intelligent person knows that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    not even some of the most famous communists agreed on how to achieve the best form of communism. the divides between people like Trotsky, Lenin, and Stalin are well documented. pretty much all attempts fell short of empowering the proletariat which resulted in a dictatorship. dont blink but our government isn't all that much different from some forms of bad government. we are basically an oligarchy but we can buy more stuff than the people in venezuela can.
    Interesting that you trot out the leaders of Soviet Communism. Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin.

    Trotsky was the friendly face of the Bolsheviks. The "reasonable" one.

    Once he was no longer useful to Lenin, Lenin had him killed.

    Stalin was one of Lenin's lieutenants. By credible reports, Stalin loyalists who wanted Lenin out of the way, either poisoned or suffocated Lenin.

    Compare that to the racist-sexist-bigot-homophobe AmeriKKKan...ELECTIONS.

    We haven't had political leaders kill their rivals.

    Yet. Although Antifa wants to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita Marley View Post
    We're talking about Socialism as a system. The State owns everything, including your wages as a worker. You can't start a business of your own. You can work for the State, and the State decides how much flour you get and how much money you make. When your State-allotted money runs out, you're back in the bread line.
    You need State-issued money (which is fiat money, no real value) to buy that bread you're in line for.

    In a socialist economy, bread lines or no...no money, YOU STARVE.

    And you cannot leave. Cannot even move without an internal visa ("Your papers please!")

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    You need State-issued money (which is fiat money, no real value) to buy that bread you're in line for.

    In a socialist economy, bread lines or no...no money, YOU STARVE.

    And you cannot leave. Cannot even move without an internal visa ("Your papers please!")
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    Interesting that you trot out the leaders of Soviet Communism. Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin.

    Trotsky was the friendly face of the Bolsheviks. The "reasonable" one.

    Once he was no longer useful to Lenin, Lenin had him killed.

    Stalin was one of Lenin's lieutenants. By credible reports, Stalin loyalists who wanted Lenin out of the way, either poisoned or suffocated Lenin.

    Compare that to the racist-sexist-bigot-homophobe AmeriKKKan...ELECTIONS.

    We haven't had political leaders kill their rivals.

    Yet. Although Antifa wants to start
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    This part is up for debate. Two dead Kennedys and then there is the Clinton Cartel's mysterious suicides of obstacles in their path. I guess we'll never really know about these.
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    There has been a lot of talk about saving the Workers Paradise of Cuba by having US businesses return to Havana and set up shop once more. This will only serve to enrich the Cuban elite as everyone works for the government and is paid by the government. If Ford opens a plant building Fiesta's and hires 1000 Cuban workers they will not pay the workers directly, they will pay the government who will then pay the workers far less than they are collecting from Ford. How is that helping anyone other than the Cuban government and allowing Ford to claim some moral high ground?

    I have heard people claim (my brother in law for one) that communism would be ok if it were carried out the "way its supposed to be". That is pure bullshit. Communism is totally anti human and destroys any and all incentive and your very soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Felix Birdbiter View Post

    I have heard people claim (my brother in law for one) that communism would be ok if it were carried out the "way its supposed to be". That is pure bullshit. Communism is totally anti human and destroys any and all incentive and your very soul.
    They rationalize failure, and buy into the Magic Dirt theory (that things will be different here, because, presumably, of the Magic Dirt)...they do this because they have SUCH emotional investment in the BELIEF that Communism is such a wonderful, kind, scientific, enlightened, LIBERAL form of society.

    Because they're indoctrinated. And because most of them are either failures or exist on the government teat - government or university jobs, or crony connections.

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    The Dimtards are probably secretly rubbing their cloven hooves together, hoping one day that the US will annex Cuba, either as a state or another mistake like Puerto Rico, complete with national voting and representation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navigator2 View Post
    The Dimtards are probably secretly rubbing their cloven hooves together, hoping one day that the US will annex Cuba, either as a state or another mistake like Puerto Rico, complete with national voting and representation.
    No, they don't want to go to the trouble.

    Just eradicate borders, and let everyone with a pulse come in, draw welfare and vote.

    That is it for any genuine representation. Actually they'll only need THAT for a short time - time enough to abolish elections, make their lifetime elected positions, just lifetime positions.

    The new nobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Felix Birdbiter View Post
    There has been a lot of talk about saving the Workers Paradise of Cuba by having US businesses return to Havana and set up shop once more. This will only serve to enrich the Cuban elite as everyone works for the government and is paid by the government. If Ford opens a plant building Fiesta's and hires 1000 Cuban workers they will not pay the workers directly, they will pay the government who will then pay the workers far less than they are collecting from Ford. How is that helping anyone other than the Cuban government and allowing Ford to claim some moral high ground?

    I have heard people claim (my brother in law for one) that communism would be ok if it were carried out the "way its supposed to be". That is pure bullshit. Communism is totally anti human and destroys any and all incentive and your very soul.
    the only people who benefit from communism are those who administer it.

    why do you think the nomenklatura in the soviet union swelled to point of collapse?

    no one wants to be one of the 'little people.'

    the bureaucracy in the u.s. may suffer the same fate, if the deep state and its globalist controllers continue with their machinations, unchecked.
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