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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyBoomer+ View Post
    You wont get vacations unless theres civilisation at the other end, ergo yo uneeed a base first. There is no reason to think it wont happen eventually. Mankind has relentless explored and expanded throughout history as technology has allowed him, and there is no limit to technology because the total sum of human knowhow inexorably increases every day, without pause (hence the asurdity of declaring things 'impossible'). This increase in knowhow is logarithmic, and will result in the First Technological Singularity, this century. This is not speculation, its inevitable.
    Science has also given definite limits .

    The Second Law.

    The speed of light .

    Heisenberg's uncertainty.

    And, of course, if there's no promise of profit, there is no investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan40 View Post
    If we awarded multi-million or billion dollar contracts only to brothers-in-law, cousins, or the highest briber, would BB be satisfied?

    How did the astronauts feel sitting on top of 6 million parts made by the lowest bidder?
    Had some vendors, lowest bidders, build some workstands. One thing led to another, I'm not in that loop, when they showed up on site, entire welded brackets were missing..

    ...THIS. is why we test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sled Dog View Post
    Had some vendors, lowest bidders, build some workstands. One thing led to another, I'm not in that loop, when they showed up on site, entire welded brackets were missing..

    ...THIS. is why we test.
    Could get the same result---OR WORSE--- from a 'preferred' high priced minority supplier. Or any supplier.

    That's why we test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sled Dog View Post
    Science has also given definite limits .

    The Second Law.

    The speed of light .

    Heisenberg's uncertainty.

    And, of course, if there's no promise of profit, there is no investment.
    But as I pointed out elsewhere, the entire basis of the stanbard Model is far from solid and is full of holes, and there is now a growing school of thought that says The Universe is not a finite contained system ,in which case the 2nd law doesnt apply because the total amount of energy is varying (in fact it doesnt apply at quantum levels anyway - all quantum processes bar one are time reversible), Time becomes a local phenomena, and the rest of physics as is becomes even more shaky. The real truth lies in M Theory, i hionk, thats the TOE, and then we'll see whats 'impossible'

    BTW you realise reletivity doesnt bar faster than light travel, just fast-as-light. Onc eyou get past the light barrrier the equaions invert and it takes less energy to go faster. This is just as crazy as finding out, as we have done, we can get below absolutel zero.

    You hang you coat on a coatpeg thats barerly held on by one screw. The Standard Model is very very ill. We arent sure precisely how many fundamental particles there are, or why we need to inject starting constants in the equations to make the Standard Model work. When you grasp the enormity of what we DONT know, you realise all these proclamtions by naysayers that something is 'impossible' (such as faster than light travel or time travel) is based not on any knowledge but mainly on arrogance and a mistaken belief of understanding . We cant even explain why light travels at the speed it does. Theres no logical, physical or mathematical reason for it to be 186,000 miles per second. we dont know the origin of time. We do not know why the Higgs Field imparts mass, and not any other scalar field. Why is the Cosmological Constant 1.1056 x 10-52 m-2 ? Thers nothing in physics that explains this. What this tells you, is there a lot more we dont dont about physics and the universe than most people imagine.

    Heres the five biggest, unpatchable holes in the Standard Model:

    1. Why do nutrinos have mass.
    2. What is Dark Matter
    3. Why is there a massive imbalance of matter/antimatter
    4. Why is the exoansion of the Universe accellerating?
    5. Why is there no sign of a particle associated with Gravity, when the three other fundamental forces have one?

    The standard modelis seriously fuxored as long as all five of these remain unanswered.

    IMHO: M Theory is where its at, but even that may not be the base theory, the TOE.

    Then on top of this, you get the 'parameters and particles' cock up



    1. Too many parameters: There are a lot of numbers (approximately 18, depending on how you count) which need to be put in as inputs to our model or particle physics. The Standard Model doesn't tell us why the muon should weight 200 times more than the electron, for example - you just have to put the masses of these particles (and all the others) in by hand from experiment.
    2. Heirarchies: The zoo of particles in our universe seems to split up neatly into three families of similar particles with drastically different masses. The Standard Model cannot explain why there are three families of fundamental matter particles.
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    Heres the five biggest, unpatchable holes in the Standard Model:

    1. Why do nutrinos have mass.
    2. What is Dark Matter
    3. Why is there a massive imbalance of matter/antimatter
    4. Why is the exoansion of the Universe accellerating?
    5. Why is there no sign of a particle associated with Gravity, when the three other fundamental forces have one?
    Not one of those is a hole in the standard model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Star View Post
    Not one of those is a hole in the standard model.

    They all are.

    From SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN
    For decades physicists thought neutrinos weighed nothing, and they were shocked in 1998 to discover that the particles do have very small, but nonzero, masses. Exactly how much mass they have is still unknown. The larger question, however, is why they have mass at all.

    The unexpected mass of neutrinos represents a deviation from the reigning laws of particle physics, called the Standard Model, so teasing out the reason for this mass could lead the way to a deeper and fuller explanation of the particles that make up our world. “It’s really the first crack in the Standard Model in quite some time,” says Indiana University physicist Mark Messier, “and there’s a lot of interest to try to pull that crack open and see what’s going on there.” Furthermore, neutrinos seem to be at the heart of a larger mystery: the question of why we live in a universe made of matter and not antimatter. The two types of stuff should have been created in roughly equal measures at the beginning of time, but somehow matter won out. Scientists suspect that solving the neutrino mass problem may help reveal why that is.
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    Neutrinos do not seem to get their masses the way other particles do—through the Higgs boson. The now famous particle, discovered in 2012 at the Large Hadron Collider, is associated with a “Higgs field” that pervades the universe. As particles move through this field, they pick up mass through their interactions with it. The particularities of neutrinos—specifically the fact that they are “left-handed” particles, a designation having to do with the direction of their spin—mean that neutrinos probably cannot interact with the Higgs field. Furthermore, particles that get their masses from the Higgs tend to be heavier. As far as scientists can tell, neutrinos have masses about a million times lighter than other particles of their class, such as electrons. “There must be some new mechanism that’s giving mass to neutrinos,” Messier says. “This factor of a million sort of begs for an explanation.”





    If you think that isnt a hole in the Standard Model, you dont understand the Standard Model. everyone else thinks its a problem.

    Ill not bother explaining the rest, since your objection fell apart at the first base. But if you want to see what else you dont know about the issue, read the idiots guide on wikipedia

    Physics beyond the Standard Model - Wikipedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyBoomer+ View Post
    They all are.

    From SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN
    For decades physicists thought neutrinos weighed nothing, and they were shocked in 1998 to discover that the particles do have very small, but nonzero, masses. Exactly how much mass they have is still unknown. The larger question, however, is why they have mass at all.

    The unexpected mass of neutrinos represents a deviation from the reigning laws of particle physics, called the Standard Model, so teasing out the reason for this mass could lead the way to a deeper and fuller explanation of the particles that make up our world. “It’s really the first crack in the Standard Model in quite some time,” says Indiana University physicist Mark Messier, “and there’s a lot of interest to try to pull that crack open and see what’s going on there.” Furthermore, neutrinos seem to be at the heart of a larger mystery: the question of why we live in a universe made of matter and not antimatter. The two types of stuff should have been created in roughly equal measures at the beginning of time, but somehow matter won out. Scientists suspect that solving the neutrino mass problem may help reveal why that is.
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    Neutrinos do not seem to get their masses the way other particles do—through the Higgs boson. The now famous particle, discovered in 2012 at the Large Hadron Collider, is associated with a “Higgs field” that pervades the universe. As particles move through this field, they pick up mass through their interactions with it. The particularities of neutrinos—specifically the fact that they are “left-handed” particles, a designation having to do with the direction of their spin—mean that neutrinos probably cannot interact with the Higgs field. Furthermore, particles that get their masses from the Higgs tend to be heavier. As far as scientists can tell, neutrinos have masses about a million times lighter than other particles of their class, such as electrons. “There must be some new mechanism that’s giving mass to neutrinos,” Messier says. “This factor of a million sort of begs for an explanation.”





    If you think that isnt a hole in the Standard Model, you dont understand the Standard Model. everyone else thinks its a problem.

    Ill not bother explaining the rest, since your objection fell apart at the first base. But if you want to see what else you dont know about the issue, read the idiots guide on wikipedia

    Physics beyond the Standard Model - Wikipedia
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    But, as I pointed out, there are LIMITS.

    Want to repeal Relativity? Go ahead. The universe isn't subject to the whims of fizzy cysts pretending to be science fiction mavens.

    Then there is the Second Law. Your theory can repeal Relativity, but if yiu break the second law, the is no hope, the theory is impossibly wrong.

    Nice wall of text, btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Star View Post
    Not one of those is a hole in the standard model.
    What about his failure to spell "neutrino" correctly?

    Such a petty dig, isn't it?
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    Oh, jesus...

    ..."Relativity doesn't bar faster than light travel, merely as fast as light travel"....

    Srsly?


    You could at least have dragged out the stale argument t that supersonic flight was considered impossible because the simple theory of drag included a singularity at Mach 1.

    In the 1930's, of course, while the inept were talking about the "sound barrier", von Karman was holding a symposium on trans-sonoc and super sonic flight.

    There is a difference between the equations of aerodynamic and relativity, of course, leading to such false parallels.

    There is no ether, you see, so there is never going to be a science of ether-dynamics, and thus no sneaky loopholes the mere application of power to push through the singularity.

    Einstein ' s singularity is very real.
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