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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    i've already addressed this,,,its simple, not complicated, not confusing, UNLESS one uses a definition thats politically motivated, as in your definitions.

    you haven't challenged my definition when used separately, but do when combined.

    the combination of the 2 words doesn't change either of the 2 words definition.

    white nationalist does NOT equal white supremacy as the left constantly tries to conflate the two phrases.

    theres nothig about supremacy in nationalism.

    and white=caucasian, nothing more.


    your sounding a bit like bill clintons "thats depends on your definition of what is, is"...
    "The nose, knows"

    @Auntifa,,,when the shooting starts, don't run, you'll only die tired...

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    Patriotism is a love of one’s country. Nationalism is the superiority of one nation above others; MAGA, and bringing democracy to the world would all be nationalistic, although not necessarily racist. President Trump is a self-admitted MAGA nationalist, the ‘Black Power’ organization would use race as a superiority criteria and the ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ would use religion, although Islam is an ideology.

    Liberals have a very simplistic world view. Previously, stronger advanced countries dominated, which is the western hemisphere. These eras produced world wars, colonialism, slavery and the countries involved were predominantly white. Therefore, liberals see Caucasians as being responsible for the ills of the world, past and present, which makes liberals themselves racist.

    The lefts answer is firstly to force the predominantly western white population to accept both responsibility and guilt and secondly and there’s no better term I can think of, ‘breed them out.’

    Obama tried to collectivize the minorities, just as the Russians tried to create the perfect ‘Soviet man’, and the European Union is currently trying to create the perfect ‘European’, all these ideologies seek to produce a rootless, history re-written, cultureless thing.

    The liberal agenda is that in a multiculturalist melting pot there would be no racism and dissolving borders would eradicate patriotism and nationalism. Promoting homosexuality and feminism would destroy the patriarchal tradition and the State would become a moral overseer. Everyone would live in a consumer society, run by globalists and led by minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    Trump is starving Iran with sanctions. They'll crumble from within.
    Now Iran's claiming we didn't shoot down their drone. Why? Because they can't afford to escalate. They're scared of Trump. They're getting real broke real fast. He's starving them out like a Roman Siege machine. You guys who know history know exactly what that is.

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    Iran isn’t going to collapse anytime, neither are Russia or China. If you look at a map you’ll find that the vast majority of the world‘s oil goes past Iran’s front garden through the Persian Gulf, the straits of Hormuz and into the Gulf of Oman. Even the threat of war will bring all those oil tankers to a halt.

    Certainly the present sanctions are hurting Iran, but these sanctions have been going on for decades since Carter in the late 70s. The Russians are already in Iran and what Iran is saying is that if our economy collapses we’ll take the world’s economies with us and they're quite capable of doing that. It's why they haven't been invaded.
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    It's much worse this time. They're broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    It's much worse this time. They're broke.
    Iran sells much of its oil in what’s termed as the ‘grey area.’ What this means is they bypass the dollar sales of oil by using other currencies and trade. Europe has diversified and also started buying oil from both Iran and Russia using a mixture of Euro’s and Rubles. You can’t sanction the whole world and what Iran has the world wants. The same thing was said about sanctioning the Chinese and Russian economies and they haven’t collapse either.

    You’ll know if the Iranian economy starts to collapse when the oil stops flowing and world’s economies collapse with it.

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    We hear this all the time, don’t we? Anyone see the pattern behind it? Not so long ago it was North Korea. They were going to nuke the US, maybe even invade it. Nope, this was the big one and … It all fizzled out.

    Then it moved onto Russia. Extra troops were sent to Poland and the Baltic States to prepare for a Russian invasion of Europe and … Nothing happened.

    Syria came next, Assad was gassing everyone and the Russians running amok in Britain poisoning people with deadly nerve agents … Which was never proved and that story died a death.

    China was just about to collapse, again … And didn’t.

    Now it’s Iran’s turn.

    I said at the time of the North Korea paranoia that it would fizzle out and in a few months would have moved on to the next scare story. They have you living in a perpetual state of fear and it goes around in never ending circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
    If that were the case I'd be a "White Nationalist".

    The WN movement is well defined.



    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...%20nationalist

    If one believes whites are superior to all other races (mainly white norther Europeans from what I can tell), advocates for the removal or segregation of other races from the US then they are probably a White Nationalist.

    If you think Adolph Hitler was right, you're probably a White Natinalist.

    If you're a Holocaust Denier, you're probably a White Nationalist.

    If you're a Member of the Aryan Nation, Neo Nazi or member of similar groups you're probably a White Nationalist.

    Lots of crossover between the groups.
    All of it is sound byte spin. It is for the weak minded. Contrived pigeon holes for simplistic pigeons.

    President Trump has a certain degree of nationalism in his agenda, and, he is patriotic. Nationalism isn't a single definition, level, or degree. There are myriad levels and degrees.

    What the left (and anti-Trumpers) choose to apply to him and his supporters...is a heinous Nazi like nationalistic imagery. They do this for the weak minded to consume, then manipulated, and then subsequently led in a direction.

    Many many leaders of other countries are far more nationalistic than President Trump, as are the people in those countries.

    Personally, I think President Trump and previously Donald J Trump the citizen is patriotic and has a certain healthy (and much needed) general nationalistic approach as President.

    It is not a poisoned word to me...just because some people sell that imagery to weak minded pigeons.

    I like it. It's healthy.
    The Progressives have become full blown NAZIs, to thwart a Hitler that doesn't exist...since that is the only way they can express, and self justify, their fascism.

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    If one believes whites are superior to all other races (mainly white norther Europeans from what I can tell), advocates for the removal or segregation of other races from the US then they are probably a White Nationalist.
    Or in South Africa previously, a white nationalist.

    If you think Adolph Hitler was right, you're probably a White Natinalist.
    Nope, a National Socialist.

    If you're a Holocaust Denier, you're probably a White Nationalist.
    Or an Arab.

    If you're a Member of the Aryan Nation, Neo Nazi or member of similar groups you're probably a White Nationalist.
    Nope, a National Socialist.

    Lots of crossover between the groups.
    True.

    And if you believe in Black Power you’re a black nationalist, in Antifa you’ll be an anarchist and if an Islamist, a Jihadist. Why focus on whites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    i've already addressed this,,,its simple, not complicated, not confusing, UNLESS one uses a definition thats politically motivated, as in your definitions.

    you haven't challenged my definition when used separately, but do when combined.

    the combination of the 2 words doesn't change either of the 2 words definition.

    white nationalist does NOT equal white supremacy as the left constantly tries to conflate the two phrases.

    theres nothig about supremacy in nationalism.

    and white=caucasian, nothing more.
    It's clearly defined. When used as a phrase "White Nationalist" it has a very specific meaning which is at it's core racist and separatist.

    White and Nationalist does not.

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