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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    There should be ZERO doubt at this point, that Trump was actually surveiled.
    The lies do seem to be unraveling, do they not?

    I have no doubt. That miserable Kenyan and his enablers, have set up the Surveillance State. If Trump would attack that, frontally; set up a blue-ribbon commission to take apart what was done and PUNISH the government pukes doing, illegally, what they were doing...if Trump were to do that...that would sell me for good.

    Proof that things really had changed.

    I'm not seeing it, though. Does he not even realize, being in the middle of it, HOW EXTENSIVE this Spy State has become?

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    This idiot goes on TV to lie about her self-incrimination? Really?

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    The Left's globalist totalitarian cult of secular humanism and socialism.

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    Evelyn Farkas worked hand in hand with Victoria Nuland.

    That speaks volumes.

    Nuland was Hillary Clinton's hatchet man. (Erm... woman).

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    The Real Origination Story of the Trump-Russia Investigation

    Collusion? No statute for that. Conspiracy? Statutes for that. And this was, and is, a conspircay against now President Trump at the highest levels of government.


    The Real Origination Story of the Trump-Russia Investigation



    The Trump-Russia investigation did not originate with Carter Page or George Papadopoulos. It originated with the Obama administration.

    Exactly when is the “late Spring”?

    Of all the questions that have been asked about what we’ve called the “Origination Story” of the Trump-Russia investigation, that may be the most important one. It may be the one that tells us when the Obama administration first formed the Trump-Russia “collusion” narrative.

    See, it has always been suspicious that the anonymous current and former government officials who leak classified information to their media friends have been unable to coordinate their spin on the start of “Crossfire Hurricane” — the name the FBI eventually gave its Trump-Russia investigation.

    The Original Origination Story: Carter Page

    First, they told us it was an early July 2016 trip to Moscow by Carter Page, an obscure Trump-campaign adviser.

    As we’ve observed, that story became untenable once a connection emerged between the Bureau’s concerns about Page and the Steele dossier. The dossier, compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, portrayed Page’s Moscow trip as seminal to a Trump-Russia conspiracy to hack Democratic email accounts and steal the election from Hillary Clinton.

    It turned out, however, that the dossier was a Clinton-campaign opposition-research project, the main allegations of which were based on third-hand hearsay from anonymous Russian sources. Worse, though the allegations could not be verified, the Obama Justice Department and the FBI used them to obtain surveillance warrants against Page, in violation of their own guidelines against presenting unverified information to the FISA court. Worse still, the Obama Justice Department withheld from the FISA court the facts that the Clinton campaign was behind the dossier and that Steele had been booted from the investigation for lying to the FBI.

    Origination Story 2.0: George Papadopoulos

    With the Page origination story cratering, Team Obama tried to save the day with Origination Story 2.0: Papadopoulos did it. In this account, George Papadopoulos, an even more obscure Trump-campaign aide than Page, triggered the investigation by telling Australian diplomat Alexander Downer, in May 2016, that he’d heard from a Kremlin-connected academic, Josef Mifsud, that Russia had thousands of emails potentially damaging to Clinton.

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    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ation-origins/
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    I heard yesterday Victoria Nuland gave the order to start the operation. Now I can't find it.
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    • Michael Gaeta (FBI) – Ran FBI’s Eurasian organized crime unit in New York. Has known Steele previously. Led the 2013 FBI investigation of Russian mafia boss, Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov. For two years ending in 2013, the FBI had a court-approved warrant to eavesdrop on Tokhtakhounov’s money-laundering network that operated out of unit 63A in Trump Tower.
    • Gaeta was the FBI Agent sent to London to meet with Christopher Steele and obtain first copy of Dossier. Gaeta’s trip approved by State’s Victoria Nuland. Gaeta may have given copy of Dossier to Nuland before anyone else.

    A Listing of Participants



    By the summer of 2016, Victoria Nuland’s “Spidey sense” told her something was very wrong.




    That spring, Nuland, the top State Department official charged with overseeing U.S. policy toward Russia, was one of those who had “first rung the alarm bell” inside the Obama administration, warning that Russia appeared to be trying to “discredit the democratic process” in the United States as part of a concerted 2016 strategy.


    Now, the Russian campaign was turning out to be even more serious than she had imagined. She had known since late 2015 that the Democratic National Committee’s email servers had been hacked; all these months later, the stolen DNC emails were being publicly released by websites known to be Russian conduits right on the eve of the Democratic convention, and U.S. intelligence agencies would soon confirm the hack to be a Russian operation.

    “That’s when the hairs really went up on the back of our necks,” she recounted in an interview with The Global Politico, her first extensive public comments about what it was like to spend months in the middle of the U.S. government’s halting, frustrating attempts to understand the Russian attack on the U.S. electoral system—and then try to figure out how to respond to it.





    - POLITICO Magazine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    I heard yesterday Victoria Nuland gave the order to start the operation. Now I can't find it.
    Specifically, she green-lighted the meeting between steel and the FBI that took place in July of 2016 I think it was? Just a moment, let me see if I can find the reference for you. Here:

    Obama aide started Christopher Steele-FBI Alliance - Washington Times


    Victoria Nuland says Obama State Dept. informed FBI of reporting from Steele dossier - CBS News

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    Great stuff, @Louise.

    It's Curious that Brennan and Christopher Steele seem to have panicked and gotten on the anti Trump bandwagon at around the same time, sometime in July of 2016. This would have been after only the first or second installment of 17, of the dossier. Suddenly Christopher Steele thought it was important, or at least that's the story line we've been fed so far.

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    Nuland & Co. Rattled in Africa

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    Victoria Nuland Appeared "Desperate" During Africa Tour As US-Backed Leaders Overthrown

    Quotes from Tyler Durden @ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ers-overthrown
    Thursday, Aug 31, 2023 - 01:40 PM

    ""Though Washington has so far refused to characterize developments in the Nigerien capital of Niamey as a coup, the South African source confirmed that Nuland sought South Africa’s assistance in responding to regional conflicts, including in Niger, where she emphasized that Washington not only held significant financial investments, but also maintained 1,000 of its own troops""

    For Nuland, the realization that she was negotiating from a position of weakness was likely a rude awakening.

    Serving Both Parties & Advancing Empire, One Regime Change at a Time

    ""Throughout the past decade and a half, Victoria Nuland has established herself as one of the most heavy-handed – and effective – agents of Western-directed regime change ops within the State Department. As the wife of the arch-neoconservative strategist, Robert Kagan, who advised both Republican presidential contender, Mitt Romney, and Democrat, Hillary Clinton, Nuland embodied the interventionist consensus that prevailed across both parties in the pre-Trump era""...More @

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ers-overthrown

    Last 'zerohedge' Quote: ""Will the generation of U.S. officials that comes after Nuland accept Washington’s place in this multipolar world, or will they insist on going down fighting?""

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