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President Peanut
08-06-2013, 06:39 AM
Howdy all! I am hoping some of you might have some recommendations on websites and sources to buy supplies in bulk, such as wheat, rice, beans, etc., as well as materials for prepping (i.e. survivalists, shelters, etc.). I have been trying to buy foods in bulk (cost effective and storable, thus a two-pronged solution), but have found far too many variances between the different sites. I am hoping that some of you who buy in bulk might have some recommendations, so as to narrow my search. Thanks!

Calypso Jones
08-06-2013, 08:59 AM
Do you have any bulk stores in your area? And are you aware that rice does not store well for long periods of time?

Gemini
08-06-2013, 10:03 AM
Emergency Essentials (http://beprepared.com/#default), they are based out of Utah. You'll likely have to wait a little as many of their items are on back order. But as for quality of product they fit the bill in every way I care about. They sell all sorts of things, from generators to food, to manual washing machines. Worth a look. Pricing seems fair to me as well.

As for base grains? Yeah, they got that.

President Peanut
08-06-2013, 02:38 PM
No, I wasn't aware rice didn't store well. Thanks for that advice. And thanks to you both for replying! The only bulk store around is Sam's. Although they do sell some foods in bulk, they typically are not well priced in comparison to the sites I have found. And frankly, I don't like paying someone $100/yr. just to shop in their store. If anything, they should pay me for spending my cash there, but that is a story for another day. Reminds me of Mr. Krabs from Sponge Bob...

TheTemporaryBG
08-06-2013, 03:55 PM
Randy Kuhlman

you were in the military right? Army? When and where you deployed? Or were you a POG?

President Peanut
08-06-2013, 09:43 PM
TheTemporaryBG
10 years, deployed to Iraq assigned to route clearance and convoy escorts. Deployed again to Afghanistan, assigned to COP Michigan. Your point?

TheTemporaryBG
08-06-2013, 09:53 PM
@TheTemporaryBG (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=173)
10 years, deployed to Iraq assigned to route clearance and convoy escorts. Deployed again to Afghanistan, assigned to COP Michigan. Your point?

10 in, served in the 3/3 thought it would awesome having Hawaii as "home" ended up in Afghanistan and Iraq. I had no point actually. Last night we were counting and the list of "vets" on here is huge for a small site.

There's you, me, Gemini, Aldo, Ethereal, Matthew (but he's AF), Ksig, Chris I think, and one other one. Then there's Coolwalker, Dan, Max, and OceanLoverOH for the Vietnam era.

President Peanut
08-07-2013, 12:42 AM
TheTemporaryBG:

Didn't mean for that to sound the way it does, after I have re-read it. Sorry about that. I started off as an MP, went infantry with the goal of Rangers. That ended real quick and in a hurry after I had a bad jump in airborne school. Two knee surgeries later, I was told to hang it up. I tried to get back into shape for pre-Ranger, but it hurt far too bad. So, I had the option of get out or choose a new job, and the jobs offered were transportation or mechanic. I chose mechanic, as it held some civilian potential. That didn't last, as I was put back into an infantry job while at Michigan. After getting home, I ended the career as a paralegal.

I enjoyed the military and even today wonder if I should have stayed. In the end, I am glad I decided to leave and pursue other public service, as I actually am home with the family now and that was a rarity while in the service. There is also a few other issues I noticed towards the end at Campbell, such as new Soldiers not being properly trained in the law of war, Constitution, and general orders. I realized that there was little I could do to change where the Army was going while in, thus another reason I am pursuing politics. I want to be able to bring the services back to where they were when I first entered the service. I had many new Soldiers that did not believe me that there are orders you do not follow; rather, they believed that because I outranked them and was an NCO, my word was that of God and not to be questioned. Shameful that the NCOs charged with training them failed them so greatly. I began to see a pattern across the board of MOSs with new Soldiers entering and believe it not to be an isolated MOS or even company putting out bad information and a great lacking of information. I now believe it to be the transformation of the armed forces as a whole. The only reason for this I can see is that the government no longer wants service members that think before acting; instead they want service members that blindly follow without question. This would serve well if martial law were to be declared again in ensuring the complete control of forces, regardless if that came to shooting American citizens, armed or unarmed. As I said, that is one issue among several with why I left the service.

TheTemporaryBG
08-07-2013, 07:45 AM
Randy Kuhlman

I've said this before and I know Gemini has but the Marines which is arguably the biggest bunch of "Take that hill" knowing 3/4 of the people will die taking it are becoming the most free thinking, Constitution loving group of people in the entire armed forces.

Libertarian thinking has spread through the Corps like wildfire. When I joined at 18 most of the guys I knew were Republicans and conservatives. Now they're all libertarians. Maybe the military tries to get us not to think but whatever they're doing aint workin no mo.

I think that's why this "crazy vet" and "ptsd" thing got started because suddenly you got this large group of people, and we are considered the "largest special forces group" in the world, who are trained to not fear death, to die trying to save their brothers, loyal first to God and each other reading Jefferson and Ron Paul. That's got to cause a lot of people to not sleep well at night somewhere.

Course I'm not worried about the government black bagging me because I'm a pacifist now. :cool20:

President Peanut
08-07-2013, 04:59 PM
@Randy Kuhlman (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=238)

I've said this before and I know Gemini has but the Marines which is arguably the biggest bunch of "Take that hill" knowing 3/4 of the people will die taking it are becoming the most free thinking, Constitution loving group of people in the entire armed forces.

Libertarian thinking has spread through the Corps like wildfire. When I joined at 18 most of the guys I knew were Republicans and conservatives. Now they're all libertarians. Maybe the military tries to get us not to think but whatever they're doing aint workin no mo.

I think that's why this "crazy vet" and "ptsd" thing got started because suddenly you got this large group of people, and we are considered the "largest special forces group" in the world, who are trained to not fear death, to die trying to save their brothers, loyal first to God and each other reading Jefferson and Ron Paul. That's got to cause a lot of people to not sleep well at night somewhere.

Course I'm not worried about the government black bagging me because I'm a pacifist now. :cool20:
TheTemporaryBG:

I believe you are as much a pacifist as I am. And that may hold true with the Marines; I did not get much time serving along side them in Iraq. However, the Army has turned much as I have stated. I fear the reasons for this are less than honorable. And make no mistake, there are more Soldiers like me from our generation of service that are still willing to fight a losing battle, perhaps with more strategy than a head-on assault, but the premise remains constant.

Up until a few months ago, I met with several combat vets with like-minded thinking. That was until we all begin feeling like we were being followed, watched outside our homes, etc. Thus, we do not openly meet. We have other means of communication that we use. And I am at the point I am tired of hiding and playing cat and mouse. Fuck the NSA. Fuck the FBI. Send the drones.

TheTemporaryBG
08-07-2013, 05:01 PM
@TheTemporaryBG (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=173):

I believe you are as much a pacifist as I am.



My lotus position isn't convincing you?




Up until a few months ago, I met with several combat vets with like-minded thinking. That was until we all begin feeling like we were being followed, watched outside our homes, etc. Thus, we do not openly meet. We have other means of communication that we use. And I am at the point I am tired of hiding and playing cat and mouse. Fuck the NSA. Fuck the FBI. Send the drones.

I'm a loyal Amurrican sir. I love the NSA.

President Peanut
08-07-2013, 09:00 PM
TheTemporaryBG:

No, not very convincing. And I am sure you are a loyal American, as am I. But I doubt the affection for the NSA is true. Maybe....puppy love?

TheTemporaryBG
08-07-2013, 09:06 PM
@TheTemporaryBG (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=173):

No, not very convincing. And I am sure you are a loyal American, as am I. But I doubt the affection for the NSA is true. Maybe....puppy love?

Me next year at this time

http://corawen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2_Buddha_enlightenment.jpg

President Peanut
08-07-2013, 09:21 PM
HA! TheTemporaryBG

Max Rockatansky
08-07-2013, 09:40 PM
@TheTemporaryBG (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=173):

I believe you are as much a pacifist as I am. And that may hold true with the Marines; I did not get much time serving along side them in Iraq. However, the Army has turned much as I have stated. I fear the reasons for this are less than honorable. And make no mistake, there are more Soldiers like me from our generation of service that are still willing to fight a losing battle, perhaps with more strategy than a head-on assault, but the premise remains constant.

Up until a few months ago, I met with several combat vets with like-minded thinking. That was until we all begin feeling like we were being followed, watched outside our homes, etc. Thus, we do not openly meet. We have other means of communication that we use. And I am at the point I am tired of hiding and playing cat and mouse. Fuck the NSA. Fuck the FBI. Send the drones.

When someone has spent a year or two being hunted, where every corner can present a life or death, it's natural to become paranoid. Paranoia can mean the difference between life and death.

Transitioning to civilian life can be a problem for those who have gone through such an experience. Our government has problems, but to think that the thousands of FBI agents, police, technicians and all the others are less Americans than fellow servicemen is, in my humble opinion, more of a personal problem than a national problem.

Preparing for disaster is smart. Being self-sufficient is smart. Maintaining skills and learning new ones is smart. Living with the idea that the entire world is going to end and we'll see our own military gunning down Americans in the streets? That seems a lot more about fear than simply being smart.

Teutorian
08-07-2013, 09:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsDBAixXJdM

TheTemporaryBG
08-07-2013, 09:50 PM
When someone has spent a year or two being hunted, where every corner can present a life or death, it's natural to become paranoid. Paranoia can mean the difference between life and death.

Transitioning to civilian life can be a problem for those who have gone through such an experience. Our government has problems, but to think that the thousands of FBI agents, police, technicians and all the others are less Americans than fellow servicemen is, in my humble opinion, more of a personal problem than a national problem.

Preparing for disaster is smart. Being self-sufficient is smart. Maintaining skills and learning new ones is smart. Living with the idea that the entire world is going to end and we'll see our own military gunning down Americans in the streets? That seems a lot more about fear than simply being smart.

Not the military, but the cops sure seem ready to do it. I mean--

Omanipadmeohmmmm

Max Rockatansky
08-07-2013, 10:14 PM
Not the military, but the cops sure seem ready to do it. I mean--

Omanipadmeohmmmm

It comes and goes. The Brits shot down protesters in the streets. The National Guard shot several students at Kent State and killed four. Shit happens.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't protest it or take care of ourselves. I'm 57 years old. I grew up in the "Duck and Cover" age when there was a plausible possibility the entire world would destroy itself. Y2K? That was a joke. Fear of Obama? Same. It's bullshit. I've been living listening to people preach the end of the world for 57 frickin' years. After awhile I just decided to say "fuck it", see what's playing on TV and wonder if next summer is going to be hotter than this one.

Sure, as mentioned in other threads, it's smart to be prepared for contingencies. Keep some supplies handy. Learn some skills. But spend my life worrying about the end-of-the-world rather than planning to bang my girlfriend in the swimming pool? I think not.

A great movie is "We Were Soldiers". There's a part where the Sergeant Major, played by Sam Elliott, is offered to equip himself with an M-16. He said something to the effect of "When I need to pick up a rifle, there will be plenty of them lying around". That stuck with me. I've mentioned I was a survivalist when I was in my teens all the way through my Marine career. After a bit, if finally dawned on me that "being prepared" is more a state of mind than physical equipment. Equipment can be lost, destroyed or rendered unusable. It's also heavy. How much shit can we really carry? Smarter to have the basics, but travel light. Be preparedby staying fit in both mind and body. It's not the rifle that makes a Marine dangerous. It's the Marine that makes the rifle dangerous. The rifle is just a tool. Improvise, Adapt and Overcome. Travel light, but be ready to travel.

I'm not worried about the end of the world. If it happens, it happens. I'll adapt. I have enough weapons, ammo, equipment and supplies to see me through a few weeks. We'll see what happens after that. Anyone who thinks they can survive for 20-30 years living in a hole is blinding themselves to the bigger picture, in my opinion.

TheTemporaryBG
08-07-2013, 10:26 PM
IIt's not the rifle that makes a Marine dangerous. It's the Marine that makes the rifle dangerous. The rifle is just a tool. Improvise, Adapt and Overcome. Travel light, but be ready to travel.

Where have I heard that before...? It's like a distant echo.




I'm not worried about the end of the world. If it happens, it happens. I'll adapt. I have enough weapons, ammo, equipment and supplies to see me through a few weeks. We'll see what happens after that. Anyone who thinks they can survive for 20-30 years living in a hole is blinding themselves to the bigger picture, in my opinion.

I plan to be picking flowers in a field somewhere and putting them in bad men's guns. I tell you all I am a changed man.

Max Rockatansky
08-07-2013, 10:42 PM
Where have I heard that before...? It's like a distant echo.



I plane to be picking flowers in a field somewhere and putting them in bad men's guns. I tell you all I am a changed man.

It works better if you wrap a little det cord around the flowers before you stick them into the barrels. Just a tip from an old hand.

Handing out flowers is a good distraction while someone sets up a claymore or slips in from behind with a grenade.

President Peanut
08-08-2013, 10:23 AM
When someone has spent a year or two being hunted, where every corner can present a life or death, it's natural to become paranoid. Paranoia can mean the difference between life and death.

Transitioning to civilian life can be a problem for those who have gone through such an experience. Our government has problems, but to think that the thousands of FBI agents, police, technicians and all the others are less Americans than fellow servicemen is, in my humble opinion, more of a personal problem than a national problem.

Preparing for disaster is smart. Being self-sufficient is smart. Maintaining skills and learning new ones is smart. Living with the idea that the entire world is going to end and we'll see our own military gunning down Americans in the streets? That seems a lot more about fear than simply being smart.
Max Rockatansky:

Appreciate the words, but I don't hold a great deal of trust in law enforcement, including the FBI. I'm not paranoid, I'm prepared/preparing. Those guys held up their right hand and gave an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of these United States against all enemies, all the while they carry out orders of illegal search and seizes, abusive force, and illegal wire taps. Where is their resistance movement? What about the oath? Sure, there are some vets in their ranks, but an increasing number come straight from college and are very liberal minded. It is part of the hiring process in federal law enforcement now, but I am not going into that.

As for my reasons for this post, no I don't plan on living 20-30 years in a hole and on my own. I figure it will take a max of about 5 years, if a full revolution gets off the ground. During that time, or less, there will be plenty of equipment, food, supplies, etc. to be found, as forces move back and forth and are subsequently destroyed in battle.

Aside from a prepping for potential revolution (we are still not at a tipping point), I have a main goal of storing food for the family and trying to eliminate overall costs. Currently hunting provides 30% of our yearly meat. I plan on hunting more this year to try and get that to 50%. We also raise cattle, so the only meats I have to buy are pork and chicken, and the chicken will be solved next spring.

Finally, I do have a fear that the military would gun down our own people in the streets because of what I saw from Soldiers while in the last couple of year. I sincerely hope it is just fear and that when and if the day comes, more Soldiers realize the immorality of the order(s) and resist. But I won't allow myself to sit idle and hope this is what happens.

And yes, those vets I mentioned, we all felt it individually but didn't want to be "that guy" to say it. When someone finally did, the rest of us realized maybe we weren't crazy. Even now, the possibility we were wrong exists and we all know that, but that in no way means we should continue assuming we were wrong. So we changed tactics.

TheTemporaryBG
08-08-2013, 11:41 AM
Crazy fucking vets, always planning shit. Good thing I don't have to associate with those guys. I might have the government watching me.

President Peanut
08-08-2013, 04:29 PM
I know, damn me TheTemporaryBG. Always going around starting crap, discussing crazy ideas of freedom and liberty, limited government, taxing only so much as to pay for the necessities and not the luxuries (welfare falls in this category). Craziness!

Gemini
08-08-2013, 04:31 PM
I know, damn me @TheTemporaryBG (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=173). Always going around starting crap, discussing crazy ideas of freedom and liberty, limited government, taxing only so much as to pay for the necessities and not the luxuries (welfare falls in this category). Craziness!

Yep, we got a crazy one here folks...Load the tranqs...

TheTemporaryBG
08-08-2013, 04:33 PM
Yep, we got a crazy one here folks...Load the tranqs...

I'd love to help, but I'm a man of peace these days.

Gemini
08-08-2013, 04:34 PM
I'd love to help, but I'm a man of peace these days.

It's okay, you can just pass me the tranqs, I'll load them, and then give it to the shooter.

TheTemporaryBG
08-08-2013, 04:37 PM
It's okay, you can just pass me the tranqs, I'll load them, and then give it to the shooter.

One mind, any weapon.

Gemini
08-08-2013, 04:40 PM
One mind, any weapon.

Weapon of choice?

Breastmilk.

Max Rockatansky
08-08-2013, 11:51 PM
Weapon of choice?

Breastmilk.

Best served straight from the tap.

Gemini
08-09-2013, 12:39 AM
Best served straight from the tap.

How are you suppose to put strawberry Nesquik in it then?

TheTemporaryBG
08-09-2013, 12:44 AM
How are you suppose to put strawberry Nesquik in it then?

I think I'd rather go back to Helmand.

Max Rockatansky
08-09-2013, 08:56 AM
How are you suppose to put strawberry Nesquik in it then?

Two methods. One to just pour a little in your mouth and swish it around after sucking off the tap. There other, my preferred method is to just sprinkle a little around the "tap" and lick it off. It doesn't hurt to have a little Redi-Whip either.

Belazure
08-23-2013, 07:22 PM
I'm leaning towards thinking that survival wouldn't work at least on an individual basis - I mean think about it, if there was a big national disaster, and people were having to farm off the land just to survive - what would be to stop a mob of starving people from just robbing and stealing all of your supplies?

Only way I could see it working is if a large group of people banded together for protection. I don't think an individual home/family would be able to survive in the long run.

Gemini
08-23-2013, 11:41 PM
I'm leaning towards thinking that survival wouldn't work at least on an individual basis - I mean think about it, if there was a big national disaster, and people were having to farm off the land just to survive - what would be to stop a mob of starving people from just robbing and stealing all of your supplies?

Guns. Hunger is a great motivator, but survival is stronger. Knock a few off, and they will eat their own.



Only way I could see it working is if a large group of people banded together for protection. I don't think an individual home/family would be able to survive in the long run.

Individual? Unlikely. Group/family? Much more likely - if they have guns and know how to use them.