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Guest
03-04-2013, 06:34 PM
Verrrry interrrresting

http://www.infowars.com/why-are-giant-sinkholes-appearing-all-over-america-is-something-happening-to-the-earths-crust/

Florida has always been an area that has been prone to sinkholes, but the numbers do show that sinkhole damage in the state has increased very rapidly in recent years. According to ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/03/how-sinkholes-can-develop/), insurance claims related to sinkholes more than doubled between 2006 and 2009…

Hillsborough County, where Seffner is situated, is part of an area in Florida prone to sinkholes, with insurance claims associated with them more than doubling between 2006 and 2009, according to a Florida Senate report.
But that is just Florida, right?
Other parts of the country are not having this kind of a problem, right?
Wrong.
Just check out what has been happening in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania lately. There are dozens of sinkholes that have opened up in Harrisburg, and the city is so broke that it doesn’t have the money to fix all of them.
In fact, at this point there are 41 sinkholes (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/photos-harrisburg-pa-plauged-sinkholes-article-1.1253254) that have been documented in Harrisburg, and many of them are right in the middle of the street…

Pennsylvania’s state capital is suffering from a rash of monster sinkholes, but city officials are too broke to do anything about it.
Loose soil and leaky, century-old underground water pipes are to blame for the municipal nightmare, which came to a head on the New Year’s Eve when a 50-foot sinkhole yawned open along Fourth Street, the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323926104578276044132947694.html?m od=WSJ_article_comments#slide%252F6%3D%26articleTa bs%3Darticle%26project%3DSLIDESHOW08%26s%3DSB10001 424127887324329204578272340619944574)reported.
The eight-foot deep crater — one of at least 41 in the city — is so large, locals made it a “check-in” site on the social media site Four Square.
Some cheeky residents and the media (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/01/harrisburgs_super_sinkhole_wal.html#incart_river) nicknamed the hole “Super Sinkhole Walter.”
Of course there have been lots of cities throughout U.S. history that have experienced such an epidemic of sinkholes, right?
There is no reason to be alarmed, right?
In a previous article about sinkholes (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/monster-sinkholes-an-indication-that-major-earth-changes-are-coming-along-the-new-madrid-fault), I talked about a sinkhole that recently formed in Ohio that was the size of four football fields and that was more than 30 feet deep. It caused part of State Route 516 to collapse (http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/breaking-news-massive-sinkhole-closes-8-mile-stret/nTHj5/) and authorities were projecting that the road would continue to stay closed for months to come.
But that is “normal”, right?
The giant Louisiana sinkhole in Assumption Parish that made headlines all over the nation last year is now more than 800 feet in diameter (http://www.wafb.com/story/21388546/increased-seismic-activity-halts-work-at-giant-louisiana-sinkhole). It just continues to grow, and authorities have no idea when it will stop growing.
But this kind of thing happens all the time, right?
Just recently, large sinkholes forced roads to close in New Jersey (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sinkhole-major-nj-highway-damages-18-cars-18561063) and in Arizona (http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20130220/NEWS01/130220003/-Geologic-event-closes-U-S-89-Arizona?gcheck=1). Of course those incidents will soon be forgotten because there are more news stories about major sinkholes in the United States almost every single day now (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=sinkholes&oq=sinkholes&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i400.3106.4626.0.4802.9.6.0.3.3.0.130.5 06.2j4.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.yHYALEx-gR8). Giant sinkholes have been happening with such regularity that people hardly take notice anymore.
You can see some photos of some of the craziest sinkholes in recent years right here (http://www.businessinsider.com/giant-sinkhole-photos-2013-3#in-may-1981-a-gigantic-sinkhole-developed-over-the-course-of-a-day-in-winter-park-florida-the-city-stabilized-and-sealed-the-area-converting-it-into-an-urban-lake-1). It would be one thing if giant sinkholes were just appearing in the United States, but unfortunately that is not the case.
For instance, a sinkhole that appeared in the middle of Guatemala City in 2010 was about 30 stories deep (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/02/the-science-of-sinkholes-what-you-should-know.html).
Down in Sarisarinama, Venezuela some sinkholes have appeared in recent years that are more than 1,000 feet wide (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/02/the-science-of-sinkholes-what-you-should-know.html).
China has been one of the worst areas of the world for sinkholes over the past several years. In fact, just check out what has been happening in one village in China recently (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/world-still-grappling-with-epidemic-of-sinkholes-chinese-village-suffers-over-20-sinkholes-in-five-months/)…

Residents in the village of Lianyuan in southern China’s Hunan Province have been treading rather gingerly these last few months. Over 20 sinkholes have opened up in the ground since last September. The cave-ins, which range in size, have seen houses collapse and rivers run dry. And there is never any warning as to where and when the sinkholes occur. According to local authorities, the main reason for the cave-ins is the number of coalmines in the area. It is not clear what steps are being taken to prevent further sinkholes from appearing.
I could go on and on with more examples from all over the globe, but hopefully you are starting to get the point.
Giant holes are opening up all over the earth and swallowing homes, buildings, roads and sometimes even people.
So why is this happening?
Is the crust of the earth becoming more unstable?
Or is something else at work?

********************

I'm sure it's something we're doing, but what?

lostbeyond
03-05-2013, 12:36 AM
HAHAA Excellent! We just talked about non-linear statistics at maths class, such as the theory of chaos dynamics. We can find a set of parameters that would fit a chaos model on ALL the sinkholes, simultaneously. Then these parameters will assign the probabilities of where the new sink holes will start in the future, and how big they will be. Fascinating phenomenon! :)

(By the way, deep crust drilling uncovered, that even at such depths where cracks in the crust should not exist, cracks do exist, despite the glassy transformation of the rocks. A part of physics we don't yet understand.)

Sinestro/Green Arrow
03-05-2013, 02:19 AM
A good question. Even more importantly...why are we doing it?

josegary
09-02-2013, 02:01 AM
When it comes to sink holes proper care and precautions should be taken. Kids should not be allowed to go to that area and the sinkhole area should be fenced with fencing. Hire a public adjuster who will file a claim with the insurance company. According to Florida State Statutes, aside from yourself, there are only two entities that can represent you with claims and dealings with your insurance company. Those two are either an attorney or a Public Adjuster.

BleedingHeadKen
09-02-2013, 02:57 AM
Blame global warming. We'll need massive government intervention.

Trinnity
09-02-2013, 08:27 AM
When it comes to sink holes proper care and precautions should be taken. Kids should not be allowed to go to that area and the sinkhole area should be fenced with fencing. Hire a public adjuster who will file a claim with the insurance company. According to Florida State Statutes, aside from yourself, there are only two entities that can represent you with claims and dealings with your insurance company. Those two are either an attorney or a Public Adjuster.:bannedsmile:

Spammer from Ecuador(?).

gamewell45
09-02-2013, 12:41 PM
Verrrry interrrresting

http://www.infowars.com/why-are-giant-sinkholes-appearing-all-over-america-is-something-happening-to-the-earths-crust/

Florida has always been an area that has been prone to sinkholes, but the numbers do show that sinkhole damage in the state has increased very rapidly in recent years. According to ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/03/how-sinkholes-can-develop/), insurance claims related to sinkholes more than doubled between 2006 and 2009…
Hillsborough County, where Seffner is situated, is part of an area in Florida prone to sinkholes, with insurance claims associated with them more than doubling between 2006 and 2009, according to a Florida Senate report.

But that is just Florida, right?
Other parts of the country are not having this kind of a problem, right?
Wrong.
Just check out what has been happening in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania lately. There are dozens of sinkholes that have opened up in Harrisburg, and the city is so broke that it doesn’t have the money to fix all of them.
In fact, at this point there are 41 sinkholes (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/photos-harrisburg-pa-plauged-sinkholes-article-1.1253254) that have been documented in Harrisburg, and many of them are right in the middle of the street…
Pennsylvania’s state capital is suffering from a rash of monster sinkholes, but city officials are too broke to do anything about it.
Loose soil and leaky, century-old underground water pipes are to blame for the municipal nightmare, which came to a head on the New Year’s Eve when a 50-foot sinkhole yawned open along Fourth Street, the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323926104578276044132947694.html?m od=WSJ_article_comments#slide%252F6%3D%26articleTa bs%3Darticle%26project%3DSLIDESHOW08%26s%3DSB10001 424127887324329204578272340619944574)reported.
The eight-foot deep crater — one of at least 41 in the city — is so large, locals made it a “check-in” site on the social media site Four Square.
Some cheeky residents and the media (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/01/harrisburgs_super_sinkhole_wal.html#incart_river) nicknamed the hole “Super Sinkhole Walter.”

Of course there have been lots of cities throughout U.S. history that have experienced such an epidemic of sinkholes, right?
There is no reason to be alarmed, right?
In a previous article about sinkholes (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/monster-sinkholes-an-indication-that-major-earth-changes-are-coming-along-the-new-madrid-fault), I talked about a sinkhole that recently formed in Ohio that was the size of four football fields and that was more than 30 feet deep. It caused part of State Route 516 to collapse (http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/breaking-news-massive-sinkhole-closes-8-mile-stret/nTHj5/) and authorities were projecting that the road would continue to stay closed for months to come.
But that is “normal”, right?
The giant Louisiana sinkhole in Assumption Parish that made headlines all over the nation last year is now more than 800 feet in diameter (http://www.wafb.com/story/21388546/increased-seismic-activity-halts-work-at-giant-louisiana-sinkhole). It just continues to grow, and authorities have no idea when it will stop growing.
But this kind of thing happens all the time, right?
Just recently, large sinkholes forced roads to close in New Jersey (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sinkhole-major-nj-highway-damages-18-cars-18561063) and in Arizona (http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20130220/NEWS01/130220003/-Geologic-event-closes-U-S-89-Arizona?gcheck=1). Of course those incidents will soon be forgotten because there are more news stories about major sinkholes in the United States almost every single day now (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=sinkholes&oq=sinkholes&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i400.3106.4626.0.4802.9.6.0.3.3.0.130.5 06.2j4.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.yHYALEx-gR8). Giant sinkholes have been happening with such regularity that people hardly take notice anymore.
You can see some photos of some of the craziest sinkholes in recent years right here (http://www.businessinsider.com/giant-sinkhole-photos-2013-3#in-may-1981-a-gigantic-sinkhole-developed-over-the-course-of-a-day-in-winter-park-florida-the-city-stabilized-and-sealed-the-area-converting-it-into-an-urban-lake-1). It would be one thing if giant sinkholes were just appearing in the United States, but unfortunately that is not the case.
For instance, a sinkhole that appeared in the middle of Guatemala City in 2010 was about 30 stories deep (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/02/the-science-of-sinkholes-what-you-should-know.html).
Down in Sarisarinama, Venezuela some sinkholes have appeared in recent years that are more than 1,000 feet wide (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/02/the-science-of-sinkholes-what-you-should-know.html).
China has been one of the worst areas of the world for sinkholes over the past several years. In fact, just check out what has been happening in one village in China recently (http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/world-still-grappling-with-epidemic-of-sinkholes-chinese-village-suffers-over-20-sinkholes-in-five-months/)…
Residents in the village of Lianyuan in southern China’s Hunan Province have been treading rather gingerly these last few months. Over 20 sinkholes have opened up in the ground since last September. The cave-ins, which range in size, have seen houses collapse and rivers run dry. And there is never any warning as to where and when the sinkholes occur. According to local authorities, the main reason for the cave-ins is the number of coalmines in the area. It is not clear what steps are being taken to prevent further sinkholes from appearing.

I could go on and on with more examples from all over the globe, but hopefully you are starting to get the point.
Giant holes are opening up all over the earth and swallowing homes, buildings, roads and sometimes even people.
So why is this happening?
Is the crust of the earth becoming more unstable?
Or is something else at work?

********************

I'm sure it's something we're doing, but what?

The earth is aging, albeit slowly nonetheless its aging. I have often wondered if doing things to the plant like fracking have anything to do with this? I guess its best left up to the scientists to figure it out.

Perianne
09-02-2013, 12:48 PM
I have always understood that sucking out the ground water is causing this.

Archer
09-02-2013, 12:51 PM
I have always understood that sucking out the ground water is causing this.
Perianne I want to make a funny out of that! Can I? Please?

Perianne
09-02-2013, 12:54 PM
@Perianne (http://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=224) I want to make a funny out of that! Can I? Please?

If'n you wanna, sir! I look forward to it.

Archer
09-02-2013, 01:05 PM
I have always understood that sucking out the ground water is causing this.

Actually sucking hard enough will collapse anyone and cause them to cave???? Uhhhhhh???? Actually sucking hard enough will collapse anything and cause it to cave:)

Perianne
09-02-2013, 01:08 PM
Actually sucking hard enough will collapse anyone and cause them to cave???? Uhhhhhh???? Actually sucking hard enough will collapse anything and cause it to cave:)

I've always found that to be true. :)

OceanloverOH
09-02-2013, 01:10 PM
Well now, no wonder hubby looks a little like a prune, the morning after.............

gamewell45
09-02-2013, 01:11 PM
I have always understood that sucking out the ground water is causing this.

I think that there is a delicate balance when drawing water out of the ground; rain water seeps into the ground and i think as long as you don't draw more then is seeping in, it shouldn't be much of an issue, but taking out more then is going in would most likely cause the "caverns" to eventually collapse. Just a thought.

Dan40
09-02-2013, 01:24 PM
I have always understood that sucking out the ground water is causing this.

Exactly.

We are sucking all the water out of underground aquifers leaving huge unsupported empty spaces underground.

Florida especially, the population and thus water usage has doubled and redoubled in recent years.

My own well for lawn water was 40ft. Went dry, had to go to 90 ft. Now its dry at 150ft. Went native ground cover.