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Toefoot
03-31-2014, 08:30 PM
I could not resist........... Chiappa Little badger, 22lr or 22wmr.



http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/l_littlebadger_0_0.jpg




http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/45042-2/little_badger_lucid_M7_9726web.jpg



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kygunco.com%2Fchiappa-little-badger-folding-rifle-22lr-68986&ei=1Qc6U766Kce6qgHmmoCgCw&usg=AFQjCNGGCMAk3f2QVk13FLElS3vtPwB-Fg

Trinnity
03-31-2014, 11:06 PM
Looks very light.

Roadmaster
04-01-2014, 12:39 AM
22lr Those are hard to find in bullets.

Toefoot
04-01-2014, 02:29 AM
2 lbs 15 oz. A hoot to shoot.....comes with the barrel threaded for a suppressor:

http://youtu.be/pI7iA0L9zCs


Some of the mods people are doing to them:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD4QFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.perfectunion.com%2Fvb%2Frifle s-misc%2F98534-chiappa-little-badger-backpacking-rifle-modification-project.html&ei=r1o6U7ycCcWzqgGNp4CQBg&usg=AFQjCNHjgyVv7NlkdCyfMNqFGQs4iiipDg&bvm=bv.63934634,d.aWM



Looks very light.

Toefoot
04-01-2014, 02:31 AM
Picked up 4 bricks last weekend at Pro Ass.....


Those are hard to find in bullets.

countryboy
04-01-2014, 08:10 AM
Picked up 4 bricks last weekend at Pro Ass.....
For how much? What's "Pro Ass"?

Toefoot
04-01-2014, 08:20 AM
Sorry, Pro Bass Shop is the place I got the 22lr.

As for the little Badger it is $153.00 shipped from Kentucky Gun Shop to your FFL. Here is a link:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kygunco.com%2Fchiappa-little-badger-folding-rifle-22lr-68986&ei=kK46U4TNMYu0sQSM2YGgCA&usg=AFQjCNGGCMAk3f2QVk13FLElS3vtPwB-Fg&bvm=bv.63934634,d.cWc


For how much? What's "Pro Ass"?

countryboy
04-01-2014, 08:25 AM
Sorry, Pro Bass Shop is the place I got the 22lr.

As for the little Badger it is $153.00 shipped from Kentucky Gun Shop to your FFL. Here is a link:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kygunco.com%2Fchiappa-little-badger-folding-rifle-22lr-68986&ei=kK46U4TNMYu0sQSM2YGgCA&usg=AFQjCNGGCMAk3f2QVk13FLElS3vtPwB-Fg&bvm=bv.63934634,d.cWc
I meant, how much for the bricks of 22lr ammo. But thanks for the other info too. :)

Toefoot
04-01-2014, 08:34 AM
Winchester 555 36gr HP @ $28.99, (In store item) seems to have them on a normal basis now.


I meant, how much for the bricks of 22lr ammo. But thanks for the other info too. :)

countryboy
04-01-2014, 08:38 AM
Winchester 555 36gr HP @ $28.99, (In store item) seems to have them on a normal basis now.
Cool, thanks. :)

I was gonna pull the trigger (pun intended) on a Ruger semi-auto 22lr pistol a couple of months ago, but didn't because of the ammo situation. I missed out on a great deal. :(

Toefoot
04-01-2014, 08:54 AM
Sorry to hear this, this whole market is a mess........


Cool, thanks. :)

I was gonna pull the trigger (pun intended) on a Ruger semi-auto 22lr pistol a couple of months ago, but didn't because of the ammo situation. I missed out on a great deal. :(

old wood
04-10-2014, 12:32 PM
Looks very light.

Obviously... the intent as was the Armalite .22 years ago. Interesting it can be had in the .22 Mag.

I'd note that...call it a 'suppressor" a silencer..whatever.. that's illegal in most states without a hard to get permit....since it makes this a very nice weapon to ASSASINATE/murder people... while not having any real justification for legal uses.

As many know...there's ways to make a .22 "quiet" but having it threaded for a silencer... crosses a line... maybe noot in Texas, Florida and some other states.. but if I pay $ for a gun... I don't want it to get confiscated when I take it out of the house. Otherwise.. it looks cool. Probably no problem if a variant lacks that threaded barrel thing.

while 22LR or .22 Mag is not a "powerfull" or long range thing... it's subsonic and is VERY good for a rather SILENT murder at moderate range,if silenced. Were I a HIT MAN...paid to kill...YOU...this is more doable than blasting away with some AR-15/Bushmaster. That...attracts attention.

Silencers, in general...are illegal because they are way to handy if you are doing CRIMES.

Toefoot
04-11-2014, 02:22 PM
Silencers/Suppressors are legal in the state I live in. Easy to obtain.


Obviously... the intent as was the Armalite .22 years ago. Interesting it can be had in the .22 Mag.

I'd note that...call it a 'suppressor" a silencer..whatever.. that's illegal in most states without a hard to get permit....since it makes this a very nice weapon to ASSASINATE/murder people... while not having any real justification for legal uses.

As many know...there's ways to make a .22 "quiet" but having it threaded for a silencer... crosses a line... maybe noot in Texas, Florida and some other states.. but if I pay $ for a gun... I don't want it to get confiscated when I take it out of the house. Otherwise.. it looks cool. Probably no problem if a variant lacks that threaded barrel thing.

while 22LR or .22 Mag is not a "powerfull" or long range thing... it's subsonic and is VERY good for a rather SILENT murder at moderate range,if silenced. Were I a HIT MAN...paid to kill...YOU...this is more doable than blasting away with some AR-15/Bushmaster. That...attracts attention.

Silencers, in general...are illegal because they are way to handy if you are doing CRIMES.

Toefoot
04-11-2014, 02:35 PM
Here is some good information for suppressors, as always check your local laws:

CBG is a local dealer but the procedure is the same.....

Are suppressors legal to own?

Yes! Suppressors are legal for ownership by private citizens in 39 states, and by licensed dealers and manufacturers in another four states:AL, AK, AR, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MO, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, and WY. If you are a RESIDENT of one of the states listed above you may purchase a silencer through a licensed dealer in your home state.

If you OWN a second home in one of the states listed above, you may be considered a part-time resident of that state while residing in your second home and you may be able to purchase a suppressor from a dealer in that state.

If you live in a state that is not listed above, there is no legal way for you to purchase a suppressor at all. You may not go to a legal state to make the purchase, have a friend, or family member in another state make the purchase for you. You must purchase the suppressor from a dealer in your state of RESIDENCE.

Do I need a license to buy or own a suppressor?

No, a license is only required if you are a dealer or manufacturer. However, there is a registration process that is required for purchase (see next question).

What is the process to purchase a suppressor?

Step 1: Decide which suppressor make and model you would like to purchase and contact a dealer in your area.

Step 2: The dealer will order the suppressor (unless they already have it in stock). CBG and the suppressor manufacturer must complete some transfer paperwork with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (BATFE) to receive permission to transfer the suppressor to CBG from the manufacturer. This process can take about 4-5 weeks.

Step 3: Once the CBG receives the suppressor, or if it is already in stock, you can then begin the registration and transfer process from CBG to you. You will need to complete the following:

1. BATFE Form 5320.4 ("Form 4") in duplicate
a) Also requires that two passport sized, color photographs be affixed.
b) For individuals, this form must be signed by your local Sheriff of Police Chief.
2. BATFE Form 5330.20 ("Citizenship Certification") in duplicate
3. FBI Fingerprint cards in duplicate
4. If you are purchasing as a Corporation, LLC, or Trust, include (2) copies of your articles of incorporation or trust paperwork.
5. Certification of safekeeping

Step 4: Once the paperwork is completed, it is mailed to the BATFE address listed on the front of the Form 4, along with a check or money order for $200. We recommend using a check and not a money order so that you can see when the check is cashed and start the clock ticking on your transfer. Checks are typically cashed within days of BATFE receiving your paperwork.

Step 5: Wait... The BATFE background check and transfer process will take about 90-120 days to complete. It seems like a really long time. But it will be well worth it once you are quietly shooting at the range or in your backyard (where legal).

Step 6: That glorious day will come when CBG calls to say that your tax stamp is back from the BATFE. Head on over, bring your gun and ammo and head for the range. *Be sure to read your owner's manual before pulling the trigger that first time (our lawyers make us say that...)

Where can I download the necessary forms?
CBG will supply you with the necessary forms; However, the required transfer paperwork is available from the BATFE on their website athttp://www.atf.gov/forms/firearms/

Applicant fingerprint (blue grid) cards can be obtained from your local law enforcement agency when they fingerprint you but it is better to get them from BATFE or FBI as they have their codes on them.

Should I fill out the paperwork now to get a head start?
Contact CBG first. In some cases, you can get started on some of the paperwork immediately to reduce processing time. However, the paperwork cannot be sent to BATFE until a specific serial number has been provided, and we actually receive the suppressor from your manufacturer of choice.

What is the $200 Transfer tax?
Since 1934, the US Government has required a $200 transfer tax to be paid on any machine gun, short barrel rifle, short barrel shotgun, destructive device, and silencer. The tax was instituted by Congress, essentially as a de facto ban on NFA Firearms. It was their hope that such a prohibitively expensive tax on such weapons would make them unobtainable for the average person. They also did not want to outright ban such weapons and cause bloodshed in an attempt to confiscate such weapons from their owners (hence the requirement for registration). As the tax has never been adjusted to keep pace with inflation, it is now more of a "nuisance tax" than a real barrier to owning NFA weapons. Yes, unfortunately you have to pay it, there is no way around it. Everyone you've ever met who owns a silencer has paid it.

The story - if you like to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

What is a Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) Sign-off?
When the National Firearms Act was enacted in 1934, there was no National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), etc. So, when transferring an NFA item, it required the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the applicants jurisdiction to certify that he (or she) was not the town bad-guy or town drunk. This is a legacy policy that is left-over within the BATFE's requirements that must still be completed today to purchase an NFA Firearm. Steps are being taken now to change and or remove this step.

Old Ridge Runner
04-11-2014, 02:54 PM
Nice little rifle but I've had my Ruger 10/22 forever and just can't let go of it. Bought my youngest grandson a Cricket, single shot, bolt action for his birthday last year and he is a very good shot. The Cricket also has an auto extractor. The only trouble my grandson had was working the bolt, but that is because he is left handed.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Crickett-Single-Shot-Rimfire-Rifles/706414.uts

Super light and just an over all fun rifle to shot. I payed $114.00 for it at WalMart. We were shooting clays at 25 and 40 ft. and just knocking them down one after the other.

Old Ridge Runner
04-11-2014, 03:08 PM
Obviously... the intent as was the Armalite .22 years ago. Interesting it can be had in the .22 Mag.

I'd note that...call it a 'suppressor" a silencer..whatever.. that's illegal in most states without a hard to get permit....since it makes this a very nice weapon to ASSASINATE/murder people... while not having any real justification for legal uses.

As many know...there's ways to make a .22 "quiet" but having it threaded for a silencer... crosses a line... maybe noot in Texas, Florida and some other states.. but if I pay $ for a gun... I don't want it to get confiscated when I take it out of the house. Otherwise.. it looks cool. Probably no problem if a variant lacks that threaded barrel thing.

while 22LR or .22 Mag is not a "powerfull" or long range thing... it's subsonic and is VERY good for a rather SILENT murder at moderate range,if silenced. Were I a HIT MAN...paid to kill...YOU...this is more doable than blasting away with some AR-15/Bushmaster. That...attracts attention.

Silencers, in general...are illegal because they are way to handy if you are doing CRIMES.

Although I can see no use for a silencer, I think you are making a big deal out of nothing here. People (men) who but these weapons do not buy them with the intention of assassinating anyone, they like me, buy them to teach the responsibilities of gun ownership to their children and grandchildren, or for a survival weapon when they go camping and such, lighten up.

Toefoot
04-11-2014, 03:23 PM
Same reasoning, no mall ninja.


Although I can see no use for a silencer, I think you are making a big deal out of nothing here. People (men) who but these weapons do not buy them with the intention of assassinating anyone, they like me, buy them to teach the responsibilities of gun ownership to their children and grandchildren, or for a survival weapon when they go camping and such, lighten up.